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Wedding invite arguments

75 replies

Indella · 05/01/2020 12:11

So stressed at the moment!

We’ve just sorted our guest list our after much debating and everyone is arguing about it now the invites have gone out.

I have an enormous family, 11 aunties, 7 uncles, 54 first cousins and if you include partners and children of those cousins there’s over 200 just from my family. Our venue holds 150.

We decided to invite my aunties and uncles but to only invite cousins that we see regularly and excluded anyone that hadn’t met my partner. We’ve been together 10 years so figured if they haven’t met my partner we are clearly not close enough to invite them.

That meant the final guest list ended up as:
17 joint close friends
17 work friends (8 mine and 9 my partners)
47 my partners family
62 my family

Now the invites have gone out I’ve had messages of my auntie asking why their children are not invited when another aunties children are, despite the ones that are invited living round the corner from me and seeing us at least weekly and the ones that are not invited live 100 miles away and I haven’t seen them since I was 15!

Some are complaining that my partner has invited all cousins and I haven’t. Complaining as my partner had invited cousins children and I haven’t. My partner has 4 cousins, there’s a big difference!

I’ve got people saying we should be inviting my extended family, including those I haven’t seen in 10+ years, over friends and close work colleagues that we see several time’s a week.

I had one cousin phone me while at the house of another cousin (who wasn’t invited) to ask if they can come and start arguing that 1 person isn’t bringing their invited partner so why can’t this cousin come instead. But then I would have more people complaining that I’ve allowed this and not allowed them all.

There have been snotty posts on Facebook saying that if you have a large family you shouldn’t be stupid enough to book a venue that can’t hold them all. So they expect me to not choose the venue we love and means a lot to us in order to accommodate people we never see! Plus we couldn’t afford everyone to come no matter the venue!

It’s such a nightmare I honestly feel like saying none of my family are now invited, except my immediate family, and then no one can argue. Surely they understand that in a big family it’s just not possible to invite them all.

OP posts:
saraclara · 05/01/2020 17:24

What @saraclara out is perfect but I would add a note saying that fact that people are sending threats shows you made the right decision. Why have people at your wedding who treat you like this?

Thanks, but I disagree about the addition. OP needs to appear entirely calm, rational and together, if this situation is to resolve without causing even more family disharmony. She is of course entirely entitled to say that, but whereas the original note is aimed at calming things down, your addition would wind things up.

Dollymixture22 · 05/01/2020 17:40

We had this is our family. A second. Cousin complaining he wasn’t invited to any family weddings. He had’t met his ‘cousin’ who was getting married let alone their partner.

People seem to think they are entitled to attend weddings, even when they don’t have a relationship with the couple actually getting married.

Ash39 · 05/01/2020 18:00

Similar with me. Big extended family and only a smallish wedding venue. This meant lots of cousins we couldn't invite.
My mum was totally onboard and understanding. We dealt with it by asking her to have a quiet word with aunts and uncles in advance of invites just so they knew the score. We didn't get one complaint. We did however invite more folk to the evening do, and when my siblings got married they chose bigger venues to include those not invited first time round.
I wouldn't rise to it though. I'd just take a break from social media and await your rsvps. If you get a few that can't attend you can send out a second round of invites. But not to any of the nasty haters- they've shown their true colours

JanusLooksBothWays · 05/01/2020 18:04

Ask them to confirm they aren't coming and invite more friends.

Fuck 'em.

ThisIsMeOrIsIt · 05/01/2020 18:10

Sorry to hear this ia giving you a headache. I have a similar large extended family, but fortunately it's been mutually agreed that not everyone can attend everyone else's weddings. My wedding a few years ago I invited 4 of 18 aunts and uncles, plus 4 of 35-odd first cousins, not necessarily the children of the invited aunts/uncles. I've been invited to some weddings but not all and I'm not bothered.

I think the message a pp has suggested upthread is good, then disengage for a bit. Once things have calmed down a little you'll probably find invitees less reluctant about attending. I hope it all goes well, regardless.

custardbear · 05/01/2020 18:11

I'd get married abroad on a beach, tell everyone to come but they need to pay for themselves - job done

EL8888 · 05/01/2020 18:14

I’m confused about why they are arguing, it’s your decision and it’s not a debate. Whether children are invited, cousin Martin etc. Your day = your way. I have all this fun to come this year 🙈. We are planning a small venue so it will be tricky

ElluesPichulobu · 05/01/2020 19:03

I think it is worth posting on Facebook:

anyone who thinks it is ok to blackmail me into spending more than I can afford on my wedding to invite people I barely know and haven't seen for 10 years should consider themselves uninvited. the rest of you who have received invitations,
we will be delighted to have you join us to celebrate our wedding as we love and respect you all and would value your presence - but if you are going to accept being blackmailed by the former category please let us know so we can invite some more of our friends who we couldn't fit in for the initial invites due to the size of the families. much love to you all. xx.

Ash39 · 05/01/2020 19:12

Please don't put anything on Facebook/WhatsApp or any type of public announcement... it's tacky and nasty, and makes you as bad as them. Just disengage, come off social media if you have to, and just sit it out. If they are truly supportive of you they will respect your wishes

Dollymixture22 · 05/01/2020 19:20

Stay classy. No nasty Facebook arguments over your wedding. Don’t lower yourself.

Disfordarkchocolate · 05/01/2020 19:46

My son has had a smaller version of this, its not been fun. The reality is people cannot afford to invite everyone they would like to. People are much less likely to invite family they haven't seen in years than they used to be.

ParkheadParadise · 05/01/2020 19:55

This is why we went on holiday to Cyprus and got Married.
I have a large family, when they all get together and add alcohol it gets very messy.
My Aunt went to my cousins wedding although she wasn't invited she also brought 2 dd's with her. The bride and groom were fuming.

Indella · 05/01/2020 20:22

Thanks everyone for making me feel like I’ve not been a total bitch.

I’m not the first to get married no and other cousins have invited everyone by having a late church wedding and then hiring the local football club for a reception. It’s become the done thing in our family.

We however moved 40 miles away from the home time 10 years ago and so I’m not going to book a wedding venue 40 miles away from me. We can’t get married in a church as we are a same sex couple. Plus we want the hotel, meal and evening reception so are doing things differently which limits numbers.

To the poster who mentioned my work colleagues. I haven’t invited all my work colleagues and neither has my partner. We’ve invited the ones that’s have met us both and that we socialise with outside of work. We have both been in our jobs 8 and 9 years so these people have become friends now. Some of the cousins I have not seen since I was a teenager living at home.

The auntie that’s particularly annoyed I have seen once (at a family party) in 6 years yet I invited her. However I haven’t seen her 6 children in over 10 years and have never ever met, nor know the names of, her 2 grandchildren and yet she’s annoyed that I haven’t invited them all plus their partners. I should have clarified the cousins that I have not invited are adults that no longer live at home. My 1 auntie that has young children living at home we’re all invited as it’s harder to arrange a sitter etc.

I’m not engaging with any of it right now. My mum tells me some will turn up despite not being invited anyway and they have done this previously. I can’t believe how ridiculous they are being. It’s all been set off by this one auntie and then people are either agreeing with her and saying the same thing or are too scared to challenge her.

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Drum2018 · 05/01/2020 20:29

Tell the relations that the wedding has been postponed. Then go ahead with it on the planned day - just without all the drama and without that shower of entitled assholes showing up.

B0bbin · 05/01/2020 20:34

The complaining Aunties seem really extreme. Their behaviour is not appropriate. You had to narrow it down and sounds as if you've been fair about how to do so. This should be a happy time. They're behaving terribly.

Raindancer411 · 05/01/2020 21:01

I would make the venue aware that people may turn up who are not invited but are not to be included in the meal.

Graphista · 05/01/2020 21:10

I’ve a big family too!

Not quite as big as yours but big enough, 5 aunties 3 uncles then add in their partners/spouses doubles that to 16 people, then 12 cousins and at the time I married half of them had partners/spouses and children...

Then ex is youngest of 4 himself, I’m eldest of 3 so 5 siblings + spouses/partners and on his side 5 nieces/nephews at the time although his parents each only 1 of 2 dc each side so not loads of extended family and one uncle was very unwell and being cared for by his wife and was unable to make it anyway.

You have to draw a line somewhere because no venue and no budget or organisation can accommodate unlimited numbers - hell even the royals don’t invite EVERYONE!

We chose to stick to aunts & uncles, their partners IF they’d been together a long time no new ones (we ruled out people who’d been around less than 2 years), spouses ok, cousins but again only cousins partners if they’d been together a good while/it was a committed relationship not just boyfriend/girlfriend (a couple kicked off about this and right enough by the time the wedding was happening they’d split up anyway!)

We invited all dc though which I know is unusual for mn but I was raised weddings were a family occasion and kids were included, plus I love kids and all the kids that came I knew well and wanted them there, they all behaved very well. We did have the benefit of not properly having to include them in catering costs though as it was a “village hall” type wedding and we had a sort of buffet type set up so it was approximate rather than exact numbers and about half the dc were under 2 and not really having a “plate” themselves but picking off parents meals and/or fed by what parents brought as things they knew dc would eat at that point in their development, iirc at least 3 were still bf too.

But there were daft wobbles and pressure from unexpected quarters but we held firm.

Eg i refused to entertain long lost relatives my mother thought “should” be there as they had been close to my grandfathers who had both passed by the time I married - I’d never even met them! Then fiancé refused to entertain inviting his mothers next door neighbour because his fathers a grump at such events and his mother wanted someone to dance with! Very out of character for both mothers to be awkward too - we’d expected even girded ourselves for the fathers playing up on something as they tend to be the bossy ones but they were actually really supportive and talked their wives out of their nonsense.

Weddings do weird things to people.

I also (way after I married) ended up working in the industry myself for a time.

You’re never gonna please everyone that’s impossible especially with a big wedding so you do need to draw a line.

It does make life easier for you if it’s something you can clearly argue applies to all, so tiered invites eg aunts & uncles but not cousins or even cousins but not aunts & uncles. Or no partners only spouses (bit old fashioned but is easy to explain)

Eg many of my cousins have opted to invite aunts & uncles with long term (the ones that are basically so well known/close as to be referred to as aunt/uncle themselves) partners/spouses included but not the cousins - totally understandable now our family is even bigger (now that all the cousins at least have partners and all have at least 1 dc) and the cost of weddings has gone up - it’s getting harder to arrange “village hall” type set ups, not impossible but harder.

A few of the cousins “eloped” - did the small overseas, immediate family only weddings which is also absolutely fine as an option. Rest of the family still sent cards & gifts and many congratulations and enjoyed the photos posted on sm.

Ex and I are both also army brats so had a fair number of genuinely good, close friends we wanted to invite (friends tend to become like family when you’re not living close to family AND have a shared experience in how your life works)

200+ we had!

We could have had much fewer but it really wouldn’t have been “us” at all, we did it on a budget inc quite a few guests contributed in the way of skills and other help and that was their gift to us which we were very grateful for, it was very basic in some ways and yet it was a great day that even though we’ve since divorced I still have people saying how fun it was. Even some stuff that went wrong simply added to it.

It sounds like it’s one particular person troublemaking - is there anyone in the family known to be good at getting them to wind their neck in?

We have a similar dynamic in part of my family but there’s someone in the family who is good at calming them down and getting them to see sense.

“but a huge row will come a close second!” Omg yes! Unfortunately true.

“You tend to move on from the friends that you invite to your wedding as life moves on” not true for everyone, I’m still friends with the friends I had at my wedding over 20 years ago, I’ve lost touch with 2 of them who emigrated pre sm and addresses got lost etc (keep meaning to look them up) but the rest I’m still close to.

If there are people not invited likely to show up yes the venue needs to be informed.

Someone I think really needs to tackle the main troublemaker on a 1-1 basis

saraclara · 05/01/2020 21:37

Sounds like you're going to need a bouncer at the wedding.

iforgotthatyouexisted · 05/01/2020 21:38

Ours would have been around 200 I think with all my family there down to 2nd cousins. I genuinely don't know how many 2nd/3rd/4th cousins I have.

I just didn't want a huge wedding like my family used to throw. Church, rented hall, family buffet and cheesy DJ. I had so much fun at those parties when I was a kid but as an adult I realised that they were full of hangers on there for the cake and the buffet and often arguments and people behaving badly.
I also didn't want people there who I didn't have a relationship with. There were a couple of duty invites (one bitterly regretted) but actually I can look at the photos and see that many years later, almost all the people are still in our lives and really care about us.

notanotherjigsawpiece · 06/01/2020 05:26

I had this when I got married, though it was all from DH’s family. MIL is one of 10 siblings, whereas I have a very small family. We just invited parents, siblings, sibling’s partners and nieces/nephews, which came to 30 in all, plus a couple of very close friends. We had all manner of threats and tears from the in-laws. This was despite the fact that DH hadn’t been working for a few years due to disability and I was paying for the wedding! We didn’t give in, and had a lovely day.

JanusLooksBothWays · 06/01/2020 11:03

Make sure the venue has a list of invited guests and turns away the chancers.

WorldsOnFire · 06/01/2020 14:12

Make sure the venue has a list of invited guests and turns away the chancers

Wrong approach - Most wedding venues will have a co-ordinator running the show and a team of teens/students waiting tables. Non of these will spend their time stood at the door checking off names on a list. At any normal wedding venue if uninvited people decide to crash it will cause a huge disturbance and it’s not the staff fault. There’s a bit of an expectation that only the people you invite will turn up.

Sounds like you're going to need a bouncer at the wedding
YES if you are concerned, this is what you need to do. ‘Bouncers’ are a bit extreme but explain to your venue that disgruntled family members have threatened to turn up uninvited they will probably have people they can recommend who will stand at the doors checking off names! No doubt door staff with a bit of experience with CF’s rather than some poor 17 year old waiter- so if your family so get shirty they’ll be managed appropriately!

It won’t be great doing a ‘name check’ though as by the sounds of your family I wouldn’t put it past them to use the name of someone who was invited in order to get in!
You could say people need to bring invites but I guarantee some will forget them and then be denied entry.

It’s all so messy. In your shoes I’d have eloped!

milveycrohn · 06/01/2020 15:01

It is always the same with weddings. I, too, come from a large family, and afraid I opted out completely by having a very small wedding. (with all my siblings, partners and their children, that was still large), but I excluded all aunts, uncles and cousins altogether.
I have so many cousins, there are some I have never met at all, though I have been in touch with by email. This happens with large families where there is a large age spread.
My DB, who married the following year, took the same approach as yourself, and invited only relatives who he had met with in the previous 2 years.
Someone will always complain. I thought the modern idea of having an evening 'do' for all these extras quite a good idea.

SheWoreBlueVelvet · 06/01/2020 20:02

I read your Op and the first thing I thought was you have 100 too many guests.

Your wedding isn’t a competition .
Please don’t enter the rights and wrongs of invites. You can as ever invite who you want and they can accept or decline.
I think your criteria is fine and if you need to justify it you can. Not on social media. It’s not up for duscussion.

delilahbucket · 06/01/2020 21:52

Similar here. Family does not automatically entitle you to an invite. They need to get over it. Stick to your guns and do not get drawn into conversations or arguments. Anyone who starts getting funny on social media, unfriend and move on. Anyone who now turns round and says "well I'm not coming if you don't invite such and such", accept their decline politely and forget them. Planning a wedding is stressful enough without family entitlement.

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