Warm Autumn

[BeverleyMacca16]

After the endless and very hot summer I was so looking forward to Autumn. Reading the BBC monthly outlook, it seems as though temps are going to be above average for most of Sept. Does this mean we could have temps of 20+ at the end of Sept/beginning of October?

It depends where you are. But it is a possibility in the south.

I think many people will be relieved at this as it means they can leave the heating off for longer.

Why are you wanting it to be cold?

20ish is nice in autumn. Delays the heating being put on which we all need…

Yesterday was lovely. After the storms there was a bit of mist that the sun burnt off and it was just warm and pleasant to walk around in.

Winter is long, cold and miserable- any delay to that is welcome and I cling to these last warm, sunny days.

I know the 30+ heat was awful in this country as we’re not designed for it. But around the low 20s is lovely.

Looking at the trees they're starting to turn wonder if we'll get a colourful display

Thank god, at least we can leave the heating off for a little bit longer.

There are two ways to measure the change of seasons. I go by the Equinox/Solstices around 21/22 of September as that accounts for why we sometimes get good weather around this time of year and snow in March :)

In my eyes it's technically still summer ;)

(21/22 Sept for the change from Summer to Autumn that is)

@TheBirdintheCave same here!

It's always warm for all of September.

I have had half terms in tshirts and shorts.

I don't know where people get the idea that it goes cold before october.

September is my favourite month! Yesterday ( oop north) was perfect weather. 21, sunny and a breeze.

Early days for September yet, but the mean CET is running at around 4.6c above average for the first 6 days.

CET is the average day/night temperature averaged out over a block of central England. For this year to the 6/9 we are running at 2c above average.

Forgot the data table.

At the risk of sounding like an elderly person saying, "in the olden days" (!!!) I do remember the years when it was certainly much colder by September. Harvest was still being completed in September, fruit picking was in full force, the mornings would be thick mist and the nights already chilly. It doesn't happen that way now, I haven't known a September like that for at least 40 years.

By October it would be colder still and by November Bonfire night there would be so much frost the temperature would be in minus figures. We always had to wrap up warm to be outside, despite the bonfire. This was still the case when my own children were little, I remember they were toddlers going to their first public bonfire and my wrapping them up well as it was -5 degrees. Those children are in their mid-thirties now.

For many years it has been mild throughout September, October and even November. I think definitely down to global warming. I can't bear this current 20 degrees in September and nights which haven't dropped below about 17 degrees. I don't live down south, I'm talking East Midlands here. I too look forward to Autumn and then get disappointed, but I can understand how those who are looking to save on energy bills might rejoice.

Thanks @OhYouBadBadKitten that's useful.
No heating needed yet here in Yorkshire. Well, except for my next door neighbours. No idea why

@MeanderingGently your perception is accurate. Due to climate change we are seeing a shift in seasonality and are likely to continue to see this shift. What this means is that autumn in general and September in particular is becoming more summer like. The shift is to warmer drier autumns, with fewer storms.

This is an interesting 8 min podcast by the Met Office.

45 years ago got married in September warm sunny day honeymoon West coast of Scotland took fishing rods. It was glorious weather. My birthday this month it's always been a nice month. But I do like cool nights which have vanished

Thank you, you've put it much better than me.

Next week it is showing as 23 degrees on Monday, with it still being 15 degrees overnight. It just seems wrong somehow.

This probably sounds strange, bjt there used to be a certain smell of Autumn and a feeling of the changing season, same in the Spring. We dont seem to get that now.

Don’t worry I’m sure we’ll still get months and months of cold weather. Plenty of autumnal rain around at the moment. As it doesn’t tend to warm up until at least March, sometimes later in this country any delay in cold/ putting the heating on is most welcome.

Those bright, sunny, crisp, leafy, slightly cool autumn days are very rare in this county. I don’t like the romanticisation of autumn. Maybe if we all lived in New England I’d feel differently. Not looking forward to dreary; drizzly November.

Know exactly what you mean OP.
It's been so warm. Up to 20C middle of the week, that is not normal. I know it saves on heating bills but doesn't seem right it being too warm to wear a jumper and having to have the windows open overnight.
Feels like we are missing out on the Autumn's of the past. I remember it being late September/early October and it being cold and autumn like and wearing big coats. London in particular is getting warmer and warmer and I don't like it.

I think any delay to putting the heating on is quite welcome to be honest with energy prices as they are. Once it gets cold that’s it until March or even April. Plenty of time (months) to enjoy the cold weather (or suffer it).

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We have another anomalously ,warm week ahead. Temperatures into the high teens and possibly over 20c by the end of the week.

I love the autumn chill and I'm 25 weeks pregnant so looking forward to the cooler months. I'm in the south of Germany and it's been ridiculously warm here recently, even "summer" warm. Last weekend people were out in t-shirts. I'm done with the mosquitos flying in my flat every evening I open the windows or the wasps bothering me at the park. Although it's nice not having the heating on yet, I'm still looking forward to the cooler weather, so I'm with you op.

I completely understand and agree that any delay in having to use the heating can only be a good thing.

However, surely 20 degrees in late October is worrying unusual?

I remember it being 28 degrees in October once. We got married mid October and it was 20 degrees (and a lovely surprise).

I agree the seasons seem to be shifting somewhat. But it will be cold, dark and damp in November and then for a good 4 months. So I’m enjoying any delay to that.