Ocado front page - fromage frais at 4 months?! surely not

[christiana]

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Well I don't introduce foods til 6 months. But when i did, I utilised ambrosia rice pudding amongst the usual stuff.

It's just creamy milky sugary stuff isn't it? Would you be OK with it as a food from 6 months - is it weaning at 4months that you object to or this product specifically IYSWIM

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Personally i don't think petit filous is great - you are right it's not very "natural".

OTOH bear in mind that breast milk is very high in sugar, which is why I wasn't too worried about fruit, ambrosia etc.

I hadn't heard about no other dairy before 6m. If that is the case then of course they should not be saying that petit filous is suitable.

I am very surprised they are allowed to do this. You are right christiana - if weaning early, parents are not supposed to give anything other than fruit, veg or baby rice. Quite apart from the fact that the dept of health guidelines are 6 months - this is a big bugbear of mine, that the baby food companies are still putting "from 4 months" on their products.

My DS has just turned 4 months. I've been pureeing lots of fruits and vegetables because he ticks all boxes on the weaning checklist - still deciding when to actually feed him them though - but I would never even consider giving him fromage frais at this stage. As I've been discussing in another thread, I understand weaning at four months is only advisable when the foods are 'pure' and mothers are encouraged to wait until six months because a more mature baby can digest a wider variety of 'grown up' foods.

It's strange that Ocado wouldn't be aware of the guidelines.

thisxgirl - your ds can sit unaided at just 4 months? This & being reliably able to grab things are the 2 major indicators.

I should add dd2 could do both these at 5 months but doesn't seem to have been harmed by following the departmant of healths guidance on waiting until she was 6 months.

On petit filou - certainly not at 4 months but babies are perfectly happy on unsweetened natural yogurt, it is never necessary to introduced the sweetened variety - mash in some banana if you really must have fruit in it.

He sits unaided when propped up against something and is now in the pushchair, not the pram. He was only almost 6lbs at birth (he came two days short of 37 weeks) and was 17lbs at the last weigh in a couple of weeks ago. I think he's quite a big baby. He does grip onto his toys. Haven't got the baby spoon out yet though...

"He sits unaided when propped up against something"

Er, that would be not sitting unaided, then?

Yep, just wanted to illustrate that he couldn't sit up without something to lean against - now that would be an advanced 4 month old!

Sorry, didn't read that properly, thought you were with agreeing me - silly me! He can support his head and upper back but I suppose "unaided" means he could support his entire back...I haven't had a baby before, I sort of couldn't imagine him sitting up entirely independently without even so much as a highchair to lean against in two months time but I suppose they do develop very quickly. I'm not desperate to wean him, I'm not looking for signs - just misunderstood.

xgirl, your baby sounds lovely. Early weaning does (understandably) get people quite fraught but as you're not doing anything like that I hope you're not feeling got at. i too got overexcited pureeing loads of fruit in advance, but in the end DD was pretty good and moved very quickly onto finger foods. So don't get too carried away!

That reminds me I must clear the freezer of old purees to make room for DD2s!

I don't see the point of weaning before six months. There are no benefits and loads of drawbacks - all the mess, pureeing and extra washing for one! And milk has way more calories than baby rice or veg puree so it's not going to satistfy their hunger either, another milk feed will do that.

I can see that people think it might help with sleeping. Whether it does or not probably depends on the baby and the timing. But i can see how if you have a bad sleeper it would be tempting... Same as some BFers are tempted to try formula for last feed.

What I really can't see the point of is switching to formula at 6 months if you are BFing (unless you're going back to work or something). So you've done the hard bit, the constant feeding when tiny bit, you wait until they are having solids and the BFing has settled down and is getting less and takes less time and.... you stop and pay £££ for formula instead. Bonkers.

I'm convinced that baby food companies make a lot of money out of convincing parents that weaning and formula are the answers to the sleep problems that most babies have at 4/5 months plus. And supermarkets are quite happy to sell the products, they make money too.

I get the thing about the hope that weaning might help with sleeping. But if it really did make a difference all babies over 6 months would sleep like a dream and they quite clearly don't. Nor do many children. Or adults come to think of it.

imsonottelling - he is! I've been very lucky so far. I suppose I just feel like I'm sitting around and want to do something creative/constructive so I've been reading baby books endlessly and pureeing in the hope that once the novelty wears off, I'll have a freezer full of baby food to turn to instead of jars! I guess I'll get over by the time I have a second!

Aw your post made me smile Definitely make the most of this time with your first and try not to rush to move on to the next bit. In the end babyhood is such a short time, and when you have the second you are too busy to moon around wondering whether to add pear or banana to the apple puree

have fun with your cooking, I'm sure your baby will appreciate your efforts

OP, I complained to Ocado (am an Ocado customer btw) and get really annoyed by this "4-6 month" weaning thing for a whole bunch of reasons....

Anyway, look, they have changed the description to suitable "for all ages from 6 months onwards". Hurrah!

thisxgirl - I know what you mean about wanting to find something constructive to do, but try and enjoy the bit before weaning. Now that all my friends' babies are at weaning age (all 6-9 months) we all complain about what a hassle it is to leave the house. Whether you're doing BLW or purees you have to stock up on the food (can't feed a baby Starbucks muffins, and we don't tend to meet anywhere with good food for babies!), bibs, etc before leaving the house. I miss when all our babies were soooo portable...

Seeing as people are getting results by complaining, would anybody like to complain to them about this?

Gluten containing cereal being sold as 'suitable for bottle feeds from 4 months'.

I have been complaining to Waitrose for over a year about this stuff and they promised to change the packaging ages ago, but it seems they haven't