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Did you drop milk feeds or did your baby?

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MrsJamin · 27/10/2008 09:00

DS still has as many milkfeeds now at nearly 10 months as he did at 6 months (6-7 in day, 1-2 at night). Have tried to drop milk feeds but
a) he gets too upset still when eating solids (doing BLW) and too tired/hungry - just wants boob
b) he still asks for it

Should I persevere and drop feeds so he eats more solids or should I leave it to him to drop feeds? He just doesn't seem to eat enough solid at a meal to really see him through to the next meal without 2 BFs inbetween! It just seems he BFs too much for getting towards being 1! How did any of you drop milk feeds?!

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scaredoflove · 28/10/2008 01:05

and many people in the middle, not anorexic, not obese....people that restrict food to keep the weight they are, millions believing they are fat when fine, the bullimics, some overweight slightly, high cholesteral, rise in diabetes, good foods, bad foods.....they are all in the 82%. I said one extreme to the other, there are many inbetween, we are paying the price for many things our parents did (not all of us, but a lot of us)

chipmonkey · 28/10/2008 02:10

chocloverblw8er, I also have 4 children and have spent a total of 5 years bfing.

When my ds1 was born, weaning was purees at 4 months. This appeared to be fine for him, he had a great appetite. Until he was 18 months when it all went downhill! My MIL gave me a very hard time about his "poor appetite" and was determined to make me feel that it was down to my poor parenting.

Ds2 was also weaned onto purees at 4 months. He also developed a healthy appetite but never went through the "eating nothing" phase that ds1 went through. And I really did very little different with ds2 than I had with ds1. Had ds2 been my first child I would no doubt have been congratulating myself on my superb parenting.

Ds3 was weaned at 6 months, not by BLW as he was premature so developmentally was only 4 months.

Ds4 is now being weaned at 6 months and it will be a mixture of BLW and purees. But at no point will he or any of my others be praised for eating a full dinner! To me that's a bit akin to going into an American-style "all you can eat" buffet and cheering on the guy who piles the most onto his plate and then manages to clear that plate.

There is nothing healthy about stretching a person's stomach to the point where it takes more and more food to make them feel full, resulting in someone who needs more and more food to feel satisfied. I also think the idea of a dessert being a "reward" is not particularly healthy; in my own case I think it has led to me eating cream cakes etc because "I deserve them" whether or not they are good for me! In our house, we have dessert only on Sundays and it is not a requirement that everyone should have cleared their plates to get it, they do have to have at least tried everything on the plate but there is no association between the empty plate and the dessert.

Ds1 now eats very healthily. He is 12. I think with the benefit of hindsight, that at the time when he was a toddler and barely eating anything, that in fact he was eating enough to satisfy himself; he is naturally leaner than ds2 and always will be. Some children are just like that. I do think BLW might have benefited him in a lot of ways. After all, where in nature do you get purees? Purely in evolutionary terms, BLW must be right, surely? In the primitive habitats where people evolved there were very few means of pureeing anything other than foods like bananas or avocadoes. So it more than likely was the case that babies were breastfed until the day that they snatched a piece of food from their mothers hand and ate it themselves. And for a lot of babies this might not have been till they were almost one. And as for iron, it is now known that although breast milk is not rich in iron, that it is in a form which is easily absorbed by the body so breastfed babies are not as deficient in iron as was previously thought. Which would make sense as most iron in our diets does not come in a form which would be easily eaten by babies!

chipmonkey · 28/10/2008 02:16

TeenyTinyTorya, you say you didn't do BLW but in fact, what you did sounds very much like it in that you did offer finger foods and your ds fed himself which by the sound of it, he was ready to do!

TeenyTinyTorya · 28/10/2008 08:30

I suppose it was, chip. I always think of BLW as being the complete opposite of purees, but ds did always control his own food intake.

MrsJamin · 28/10/2008 08:58

Goodness me, this thread kicked off!

Chocloverblw8r - welcome to MN . You're fitting in so well! You've written some complete untruths about me. Firstly, you've said "your child is not yet eating properly" - he's actually eating more at meals than some toddlers do. He eats very well - I never said he didn't. I do not have "extreme views" on weaning - a lot of people on mumsnet and in real life wait until 6 months and give normal family meals. Also you said I posted "incorrect advice" on the BC thread - what was that- to wait until 6 months? I won't go into how many people and health organisations say that is the correct advice, and that chocolate buttons at 10 weeks is not. How dare you say that I am risking my child's health when you insist on your own children eating when they are full! I hope that they learn one day to regulate their own food intake in a healthy way.

scaredoflove - thank you, some actual advice that my OP asked for, I will try the little bowls of snacks that he likes, good idea just to make them available so he can crawl up to them and eat them rather than crawl up to me for a BF! I am just coming to the realisation that he's just got a good appetite!

Everyone else - thanks for the support so I didn't need to go through every ridiculous statement that Chocloverblw8r has written! I agree with all of you!

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MrsJamin · 28/10/2008 09:16

I've just realised I have contradicted myself from the OP - DS does eat quite a lot at a meal but is still v hungry before the next one - so this is what confused me. Sorry - sleep deprivation is making this harder to work out!

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CharCharBaGOOOOOOORE · 28/10/2008 09:19

Wasn't the most predictable thread to kick off, was it?

I always give DD lunch in bowls on the floor as she eats more that way, and leave snacks hanging round at strategic times. She's demanded a lot more feeds lately due to teething but I'm sure she'll cut down again once she feels better. She's hardly wasting away though! Hope it all goes well for you.

MrsJamin · 28/10/2008 09:23

Thanks CharChar, no I was surprised at the number of posts just overnight! I think I need to work on good (non-messy) snacks for DS, all I can think of are rice cakes, breadsticks, raisins, sultanas or organix things (which cost quite a bit to have a lot of!)

Also thanks to whoever posted the link to kellymom, I should have known that it would contain some good advice - I like the idea of "don't offer, don't refuse".

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BloodshotEyeballsintheScarySky · 28/10/2008 09:24

I'll read the thread in a minute, I just wanted to say I'm so glad this thread was started. DD is 9.5mo, on solids and although she will eat, she's not too fussed about it. All she really wants is milk and she's having 4-5 5oz feeds during the day and another couple around 12am/6am. She won't take solids instead of and I don't want her to stop having milk if she still wants it. HVs are telling me to cut back on the milk to up her solids but I think she's too little still to be trying to cut out the majority of the milk. The way I see it, she'll drop the milk before she leaves home at some point and when she has more teeth she'll be more interested in food. Simple.

MrsJamin · 28/10/2008 09:28

Yes BEITSS that's exactly the dilemma, isn't it? I'm glad it's not just me. If you believe in BFing on demand from day 1 it's hard to know when to stop that belief and say "no you eat food now". I think it just takes them a while to understand how solid food can stop hunger as well as milk.

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CharCharBaGOOOOOOORE · 28/10/2008 09:28

Bit of cheese is good, doesn't cause that much mess. Hmmmm trying to think of what I give DD. Plain pasta, sliced grapes, crackers. Will have another think and post more if I can think of them.

I like the idea of don't offer don't refuse too. If I was weaning it's the technique I would use. You could always help it along by making yourself busy most of the time, either by taking DS out or by doing housework etc.

BloodshotEyeballsintheScarySky · 28/10/2008 09:30

Should add that I am FF so although she doesn't grab bits of me, she does go and sit under the microwave

CharCharBaGOOOOOOORE · 28/10/2008 09:35

lol at sitting under the microwave

ChasingSquirrels · 28/10/2008 09:52

sorry, but rofl at "sitting under the m/wave".

BloodshotEyeballsintheScarySky · 28/10/2008 12:40

. I make up feeds in advance and refrigerate them. She knows that bottles don't go straight to her but via the strange beeping thing.

MrsJamin · 28/10/2008 12:53

yes lol at sitting under the microwave, so cute.

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MogTheForgetfulCat · 29/10/2008 15:33

Blimey, what a completely bizarre turn this thread took...

Just for info, have found that "don't offer, don't refuse" seems pretty good - only tried it today, but he has had just 2 feeds so far rather than 3 or 4, and they were really good feeds rather than snacky ones. He has eaten solids well today, too!

I know he doesn't have "too many" bf's and in fact doubt there is such a thing, and feel a bit about thinking of cutting them down. But return to work is inevitable and as a fretful sort of person, want to plan ahead and do it as gently as possible rather than going cold turkey the week before.

But am going to pilfer some chocolate buttons from the Halloween stash in case I need them - bwah-ha-ha!

MrsJamin · 29/10/2008 16:13

MTFC - sounds like you're doing well on the don't offer, don't refuse thing- congrats.

everything's gone topsy-turvy on my plan to do this as DS has just got ill in the last 24 hours, temp, not sleeping, clingy, dribbly and won't feed!!! i think he's got a sore throat poor lad but he acts like the world is ending - men eh?

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MogTheForgetfulCat · 29/10/2008 19:55

Yes, dunno why I didn't think of it before - he's never very bothered for a feed (or any solids) first thing, but have been offering bf on the basis that "he must be hungry, he hasn't fed for X hours" rather than waiting for him to really want one. Duh.

Your poor DS, hope he better soon!

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