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Did you drop milk feeds or did your baby?

94 replies

MrsJamin · 27/10/2008 09:00

DS still has as many milkfeeds now at nearly 10 months as he did at 6 months (6-7 in day, 1-2 at night). Have tried to drop milk feeds but
a) he gets too upset still when eating solids (doing BLW) and too tired/hungry - just wants boob
b) he still asks for it

Should I persevere and drop feeds so he eats more solids or should I leave it to him to drop feeds? He just doesn't seem to eat enough solid at a meal to really see him through to the next meal without 2 BFs inbetween! It just seems he BFs too much for getting towards being 1! How did any of you drop milk feeds?!

OP posts:
CharCharBaGOOOOOOORE · 28/10/2008 00:06

I don't care how anyone weans their child. I only care about how my DD is weaned. I think purees are fine if that's what suits you. Anyway I'm off. OP hope my advice on gentle weaning helps

Chocloverblw8r · 28/10/2008 00:06

No I found this thread quite by chance!!!

Chocloverblw8r · 28/10/2008 00:08

Do you swear like that in front of your children??
No fear of mother of the year award being awarded round here.

SmugColditz · 28/10/2008 00:11

choclover, can it. You have a lot a of perfectly valid opinions but unfortunately you seem to have chosen shitflinging instead.

Your idea of 'proper' eating is your kids sitting at the table and eating until you tell them they may stop eating. It's not mine. It's not many people's, especially people who have grown up to develope eating disorders. No award for perfect parenting for you either, my love.

scaredoflove · 28/10/2008 00:12

I have been reading up on this today!

the gap between bm alone and the nutrients on average needed are...

6-8 months - the gap is around 200kcal
9-11 months - the gap is around 400kcals
12-23 months - the gap is around 800kcals

That is from world health organisation

They also state that as weaning starts at 6 months, purees aren't necessary, and mashed or chopped is good, and from 8 months, definitely chopped/finger foods. So OP, even if she started BLW, BLW IS age appropriate for her child, so choclover, you are wrong

Also, isn't bm a drink as well as a food, maybe he is having a drink for those extra feeds or just fancies a snuggle

lisad123 · 28/10/2008 00:14

well all this bitching is really helpful to the poster isnt it! My DD2 is BF and we did BLW but not to the fullness as others. My DD is above normal weight but my HV has said that she can never have too much BM. Im shocked that people are suggesting dropping bFeds and suggesting that BM isnt enough for a baby aged 8months when we all know guidelines say till 2years.

beanbearer · 28/10/2008 00:14

Sorry MrsJamin, meant to reply to you first but got distracted.
I also started looking for work around DD's 1st birthday and had a promising interview when she was 13 months so at that point started to push her towards just one or two feeds through the day from more like 4 (and probably would have been 6 at 10 months - the others just slowly vanished as she didn't ask). Had decided by then to keep the early morning and last thing at night feeds going for a bit longer - a transitional thing, I thought at the time.
Once I started work (admittedly at 16 months) I found she accepted that when I wasn't there she'd have cow's milk and it wasn't an issue. For us, a feed when I got in became a pattern and at weekends a feed before her afternoon sleep too.
In summary - work doesn't need to be a reason for stopping if you don't want to.

Chocloverblw8r · 28/10/2008 00:16

Family Meals . How often a family eats together may influence whether a child develops an eating disorder. A study published in the Journal of Adolescent Health found that young girls who ate 3 - 4 meals per week with their families were about half as likely to engage in extreme weight control behaviors as girls who ate family meals less often.

  • Review Date: 12/13/2006
  • Reviewed By: Harvey Simon, MD, Associate Professor of Medicine, Harvard Medical School; Physician, Massachusetts General Hospital.

So sit down family meals where we control the intake are wrong are they??

CharCharBaGOOOOOOORE · 28/10/2008 00:17

Interesting scaredoflove. Not that much needed really is there?

lisad123 · 28/10/2008 00:19

I have been back at work since June and DD is still feedding. She has her first feed and her last feed of the day. Until she was one i nipped back on my lunch for her break to do her afternoon feed. Now I leave her with cows milk. it takes some planning but well worth it.

Flum · 28/10/2008 00:21

Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Just stop it, right now! Or no chocolate buttons or bitty for any of you!!

scaredoflove · 28/10/2008 00:22

sit down family meals good, controlling anyones intake is WRONG

BLW (though I never did it, it didn't have a name when mine were small, though one of mine sort of did it as he was weaned late) is making eating very 'normal' for the baby. They have what you eat, when you eat and can be part or the family meal process, instead of being spoonfed

As mine were weaned on purees at 4 months, bar the one who was a boob fiend, as per guidelines of the day, I loved it when they got past 6 months and could eat what we were having in chunks. It was lovely sitting around the table with my 6,5,3 & 1 year old, all eating the same, we still do it now. I never have, nor will insist they finish their meal, your arguements are bollocks choclover

Chocloverblw8r · 28/10/2008 00:25

Source NHS Direct
Babies, weaning
What to do

In the early days of weaning, you're just getting your baby used to taking food from a spoon. They will still be getting most of the nourishment required from their usual milk feeds.

Start with a small amount of puréed vegetable or fruit, such as carrot, parsnip, banana, cooked apple, or pear. You may also like to try baby rice, which can be made up using breast or formula milk. Do not add salt or sugar to these foods. Your baby may like to try these either before, during or after the usual milk feed.

Gradually increase the amount of solid food offered over the next few weeks, moving from one solid meal a day to three. Add different tastes and textures, by mashing, sieving or pureeing a small amount and offering it to your baby. Start to include mashed meat and poultry, and pulses such as chickpeas or lentils. Yoghurts and fromage frais are often very popular, but avoid those high in sugar. Preparing larger quantities in advance, then freezing them in ice cube trays, can help to save time - just take the number of cubes needed from the freezer and defrost/heat them.

Chocloverblw8r · 28/10/2008 00:29

scaredoflove
Generations of parents who have told their children to eat their dinner up are wrong are they??
Think anyone will agree times are much worse today and I would much prefer my children to be brought up with good old fashioned morals than be out stabbing each other on the street at 13.
Too many kids are given too much lieuway whcih is why they have zero respect fro their parents and why the world is in such a mess.

scaredoflove · 28/10/2008 00:32

the who also says 4-5 meals a day with snacks too

So lot of little and often

OP have you tried making meals smaller but offering food more often? Also, feeding him food when he wakes so he doesn't get tired and fussing. Maybe let him sit on floor with some fruit in a little bowl, or rice cakes (we used wotsits but I know thats a no go today Have lots of little bowls, with different foods in he can just dip in. Maybe with the formalness of mealtime taken away, he may enjoy it more. My boob fiend ate at totally different times to us, as his sleep pattern didn't coincide with our mealtimes for a while

Also, 2 months to us seems tiny but 2 months in baby development is huge, as he gets the hang of food, you might find he tails of on the bf

CombustiblePumpkin · 28/10/2008 00:34

Yes, not allowing them to learn to recognise when they are full is a great help to children. As is forcing gloop down their throats when they don't actually need it. For of course the best way to wean is getting food into them at the earliest possible opportunity.

lisad123 · 28/10/2008 00:34

I dont force my children to finish dinner but they know if dinners not finished there is no pudding and nothing before next meal. We eat together at the table. Oh and none of this, 3 meals for 4 people crap, one meal we all eat the same.

Chocloverblw8r · 28/10/2008 00:34

i like big butt(ons) and I cannot lie!!!

Chocloverblw8r · 28/10/2008 00:37

lisad123
Well said that's exactly what we do they eat till we are satisfied they have eaten enough and then they have pudding if we were force feeding them they'd never have room for their pudding.

TeenyTinyTorya · 28/10/2008 00:39

Yes choc, what scared said. Telling people to eat up, as Colditz has proved to you, has caused quite a lot of problems. Not to everyone, obviously, but it has caused problems. My dh is overweight, and feels guilty if he doesn't clear his plate, a hangover from childhood. He has had huge food issues in the past.

I agree with lisa though - I make a meal for the family, ds gets a portion, and if he doesn't eat it there's no issue, but I don't fuss around him making him something else. Food should not be an issue, it's just sustenance. You eat when you're hungry, if you're not hungry, it's no big deal.

Also, I didn't BLW, I made purees and used finger foods, but let ds feed himself from the start. He has spoon fed himself since 6-7 months.

scaredoflove · 28/10/2008 00:41

that advice is for from 4 months, not 6 months

read any child weaning book and see what texture 8-10 month olds should be eating

And, yes, generations of parents were wrong in telling us to eat up our dinner, it has lead to obesity at one extreme and anorexia at the other. Food should never be a battle, there is a fine line in encouraging a child to eat a varied diet, to try new foods, but no one should have to eat when they are full

Food, mealtimes have nothing to do with stabbings on the street. Teaching love and respect and acceptance, both ways, does.

I speak as a divorced parent of 4, aged 19,18, 16 & 14. They do me proud (and are commented on by many) They eat and have always eaten almost every kind of fruit and veg they have tried. Each one has an intense dislike of a few foods (1 hates baked beans, 1 mushrooms, one carrots, one brocolli, I personally hate parsnips) When other kids went off veg's, mine still ate them

Forcing a child to eat is abhorrent! and again, you are talking bollocks

CombustiblePumpkin · 28/10/2008 00:44

Ah but if they don't clear their plates, the next thing you know SOL, they'll be out stabbing each other. And that would never happen with puree, oh no.

Chocloverblw8r · 28/10/2008 00:47

Eating disorders are a psychological condition and more likely to worm out from a unhappy childhood.
People will blame things like clearing their plate when it's actually an isssue with the mother being overbearing which we are not.
We always think it's worth a go asking them to eat some more and they always do so whats the problem??
They only drink milk and water and eat very healthily.
Their are children starving in africa for goodness sake and I will not throw away food that could have been eaten.

Chocloverblw8r · 28/10/2008 00:53

And, yes, generations of parents were wrong in telling us to eat up our dinner, it has lead to obesity at one extreme and anorexia at the other. Food should never be a battle, there is a fine line in encouraging a child to eat a varied diet, to try new foods, but no one should have to eat when they are full
What 1% anorexic and 17% obese thats only 18 people in 100 .
Are the others not to be included as you don't want to hear about the whopping 82% of the population who are just fine and dandy.
People get anorexia because in general they are extremely depressed .
People are obese because they eat too much and don't take enough exercise,they are adults and they can make the concious decision to lose weight this cannot be linked completely to childhood eating habits.
Sorry just speaking up for the 82% of us who are just fine thanks.

scaredoflove · 28/10/2008 01:01

lol are you reading what you are writing??

more likely to come from an overbearing mother than clearing their plates??? Can you not see the irony in that statement lol

and combuspumpkin......mine stabbed each other with cucumber spears! puree ran through their fingers for gods sake....don't give them a plastic fork!

If a child is brought up with understanding and feeding their hunger, they will eat their fill. Mine eat and have always eaten, breakfast, lunch and dinner. We don't have pudding, if they are still hungry or fancyfull after a meal, they help themselves to fruit or yoghurt mostly but we always have chocolate and crisps in the cupboard (and pot noodles/supernoodles, the student staple lol) I cook one meal in the evening, I have never had bribe or coax them to eat the majority of it, they just do. I am very overweight and never wanted to food to be the issue for my kids like it is for me and they are all perfect size (even with huge appetites)

if you would need to throw food away without cajoling them to eat more, then you are cooking too much! Make smaller dinners

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