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Weaning

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weaning

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babylonian · 21/02/2005 11:20

i want to start weaning my 4 month dd and have read everywhere about baby rice, excuse my ignorance but where can i buy baby rice from...is it in the baby section of the supermarket? does it come as dry rice or a powder form that is mixed with milk/water??? and any suggestions as to brand? i feel that this question is probably the most stupid to be aired on mumsnet .

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hercules · 24/02/2005 18:48

No, happymomof2. Babies are individuals but the guidelines are for all babies. Some may be ready a short while before (week or so) some not till sometime afterwards. The signs you mention are not signs for solids.

hercules · 24/02/2005 18:48

It's not about sense.

hermykne · 24/02/2005 19:00

babylonian
my friends hv told her that the weaning date of 6mths was really to try and put off parents putting adult foods into a baby too early, ie. if you wean at 4mths and think at 6mths they can have a bit of what you eat or biscuits/bread etc they cant really, and its all about education what are the right foods for the baby and you have to remeber their undeveloped digestive tracts.

imo whats 2 mths? its the babys life and whats the rush pushing them to "real" food, my ds was weaned at 20 wks, i was breastfeeding, and he was big 11lb2 at birth, but i started slowly with just baby rice then added pureed pear and carrot and that lasted for about 2 weeks then mixed them then apple, courgette and at 6mths i now follow various recipes specifically for babies and freeze so much food that my dh says there is more to feed the kids in the house than him!

you know everyone gets so het up about it and really this first year goes so quick why rush the weaning.

babies instinctivly suck their hands imo i dont think its a sign of anything, they just do it, otherwise my guy should had his first tooth long ago - still no sign.

and of course i respect everyones decision whatever they do.

hercules · 24/02/2005 19:05

The 6 months is not to put mums off but what the research shows.

WellieMum · 24/02/2005 20:15

It's about balance though, isn't it?

Research has the advantage that it looks at 1000s of babies, so can pick up subtle differences that you wouldn't see by looking at, say, 9 or 10 babies (your own and your sisters' or friends').

"Common sense" has the advantage that it's practical and based on the baby you know better than anyone else in the world.

But both have disadvantages too, eg it can be hard to know how to apply a general point (from research) to an individual baby, and research can be misleading if it's badly done.

Equally, sometimes "common sense" is just plain wrong. Think of all those babies in the past who were tightly bandaged and swaddled because it was believed that their arms and legs would grow crooked if they were allowed to wave them around! It seems ridiculous to us - but it was common sense for hundreds and hundreds of years.

Who knows what future generations will think of our common sense practices?? I often wonder what the recommendations for babies will be, by the time my dd (5 and a half months) has her own. Am bracing myself to be told that everything I did was wrong....

Anyway, it seems to me that the great challenge of parenthood is in being able to balance the different influences - the recommendations which come out of research, and your own feelings about what is best for your child - without getting too dogmatic at either extreme.

Sorry, didn't mean to write an essay there! Just got on a roll, as this issue has been trundling around my brain in the last few weeks. I will stop philosophising now

elliesmoomoo · 24/02/2005 20:31

my DD is on veg purees twice a day (she dislikes fruit)and is still waking up 3/4 times a night to feed. she had 1 feed per night from 3 weeks but changed at 4 months. I think its very hard for a first time mum like myself to sift through all the advice and then be able to apply it to her baby. HELP!!

biglips · 24/02/2005 20:38

i started the weaning bit yesterday (baba is 4.5 months old), i first gave her baby rice to see if she likes that - she didnt like it so i gave her veg cassrole by cow & gate today and she wolfed it down... for the past couple of weeks she had been staring at everyone when we eat and i pretended to give her some and she really wanted some so yesterday i gave it a go.

elliesmoomoo · 24/02/2005 20:42

DD is 6 months on the 1st september. She hates jars!! Fussy bugger loves avocado, swede, potato, broccoli and cauliflower. How well does she sleep?

hermykne · 24/02/2005 21:03

elliesmoo
i think the sleep and food thing is a myth, my ds and dd never slept any better as a result of weaning and my ds nearly 7mths, eats loads and he still wakes in the night . although we are working on this

its really terrible the pressure this puts on mums, these myths that aqre created around childcare - hands in mouth = needs solids, formula at 10pm = nights sleep, and so on, they work for some and not for others.

elliesmoo in another wee while she can have pasta in the evening maybe that fill her up a bit more, i am trying with my ds,

shes eating great foods so be happy with that and try her on something diff every so often.

i did all the right things with my dd, 2+4, and shes now an atrocious eater.

you know your baby, and the main thing is to have her contented in the daytime and i feel if they are then mummy is relaxed and can deal with night time stress, now how the baby stays happy most of the day is another story...
maybe i am naive in this, but ireally take it all slowly and simply.

elliesmoomoo · 24/02/2005 21:11

No you seem to be on my wave length. She adores her vegies and is happy to try most I put her way. I was kinda worried bout her not being too keen on fruit but as she is only young and not wanting her to have a sweet tooth, I am happy to give her as many vegies as she likes. I think her waking in the night is down to her wanting a cuddle. Any ideas on how to teach her to settle herself? I'm trying to put her down in her cot at night awake. But when she wakes in the night i'm so tired I just go in and breastfeed her. She wakes quite a bit (sometimes due to rolling over as i've just moved her into her cot in her nursery) when previously she was an angel.

Riebee · 24/02/2005 21:34

I find that you are made to feel bad these days if you wean at 4mths. I weaned my two eldest at 4mths but that was over 7 years ago.I had every intention of going to 6mths with my youngest but I haven't been able to make it, he is 18 weeks and on two meals a day.
he is breastfed and feeds every 2-3hrs, before I put him on solids he was feeding every hour day and night, at first I put it down to a growth spurt but after 3 weeks of hourly feeds I couldn't cope physically or mentally. I tried to supplement him with formula but he would not take a bottle at all despite being offered one every day several times a day.
I would be interested to know what people who say you should wait until 6mths would have done in the same situation.

NotQuiteCockney · 24/02/2005 21:46

Riebee, I would space out feeds more, as much as I could. And I would sleep with the baby (which is what I'm still doing with DS2, 5 months today, no solids yet, and a real bruiser).

Feeding every hour for an extended period sounds like a habit, or a sleep problem, rather than hunger.

And as everyone says, the initial weaning foods are lower calorie than breastmilk, so how can they help solve a hunger issue?

Riebee · 24/02/2005 22:04

He does still sleep with us and I did try to space out his feeds... a lot of pushing him out in his pram screaming blue murder day after day to break the 'habit'.The hv wasn't much cop all shesaid is he's a big baby he needs a lot of feeding.That is all very well but in reality it is not that simple when you have children to get to school, house to run etc.
He has always fed for 15mins max (same as my other 2)so he hasn't been doing it for comfort.Since he has been on solids he has gone back to feeding 2-3 hourly which is what he was doing originally.

hercules · 24/02/2005 22:05

I cosleep so just fed dd whenever. I cant see either how it was hunger making her wake every hour. Milk is far more filling than pureed veg anyway. SOunds far more like a habit. I would probably have tried a dummy.

HappyMumof2 · 25/02/2005 11:04

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dinosaur · 25/02/2005 11:06

Riebee I know just how you felt/feel - my DS3 (nearly seven months now) was EXACTLY like that and I have older children too.

However when I did try the little horror on solids he just wasn't interested! Only really getting into them now! He did, however, thank God, take a bottle, so he did have some formula.

Babies, eh? PITA, as Coddy once said!

laneydaye · 25/02/2005 12:05

was very reluctant to post a message this morning but here goes....
put dd to bed at 9.30pm then woke her at 12.00 gave her a feed and put her back in her crib. miraculously she had 4hrs. fed her again and she went another 4hrs..... i feel so much better for a little more sleep
had i had the night from hell how many of you would be saying i told you so!!!!
now im certainly not saying its cos i gave dd 1tsp of baby rice.

Riebee · 25/02/2005 13:18

Tried dummy too...you name it I tried it. I say good luck to anyone who can survive feeding hourly you are made of sterner stuff than I !!
Ds seems quite happy on his solids, he sits up in his highchair and opens his mouth ready for the next spoonful so I don't force it down him. He has banana/pear mixed with milk and baby rice plus a b/f for breakfast and sweet potato/carrot again with milk and baby rice for lunch. I am not replacing his b/f but supplementing them with solids, I know that solids do not contain as many calories etc as milk but as he will not take a bottle ( or a beaker or even cup feed) I couldn't find another way, unless of course I don't take the other two to school, don't cook any meals and don't do any housework for the next few months

hercules · 25/02/2005 17:30

But happymumof2 - I dont see how it is obvious a baby needs solids from the signs you said. My baby was big, had all the "signs" you say and was barely interested in solids even at 6 months.
DOnt mean to be picky but we werent talking a couple of weeks but a couple of months early.

HappyMumof2 · 25/02/2005 17:42

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hercules · 25/02/2005 17:47

read the whole of this page as it has myths at the bottom as well as signs

laneydaye · 25/02/2005 17:50

when i had my ds i was told to watch for signs of my baby needing additional food...
chewing hands
well chewing anything
showing an interest when you eat
wanting more feeds
its just what i was told and as a 1st time mum i just muddled along..
with my dd ive read the same in baby magazines ill check for correct info....
my nurse even asked if she was ready for additional food around 2 months
this time the hv has failed to even mention it either way, so tell me what do we do?

laneydaye · 25/02/2005 17:51

so thousands of years have suddenly been all wrong?

hercules · 25/02/2005 17:51

Health professionals are sadly often uninformed. Mine had never heard of the 6 months recommedations either.

hercules · 25/02/2005 17:54

But it's not thousands of years. Cave people did not puree bits of carrot!!! They would have waited until babies were able to chew and sit up. Even in this country recommendations were for 9 or 10 months in the 20's.
It is far more practical to wait until the baby is able to eat, food processers and blenders are recent inventions.