9 month won't eat please help

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Here is as much info as I can give:
She is formula fed Kendamil step 2

6:30am Bottle 1 180ml with iron drops and multi vit drops
10:00 Bottle 2 180ml
12:30 Bottle 3 180ml
1:30 - solids (Also tried 2pm)
3:00 - bottle 4 210ml
6:15 - bottle 5 210ml

She has 2 solid naps in the day at 11 and 3:10 normally around 1hr

Before she stopped eating. She preferred savory vegetables with wheat or egg. She had penut butter with bannana.
She didn't like fruit or sweet things as much but she did eat apple, plum and blueberry well. Sometimes with yoghurt.
I successfully moved her on to fork mashed food and one of her favourite was potato and green beans or egg and Carrott.

She just now pushes the spoon away, clamps her mouth shut or will only eat 1 spoon. she takes water during her meal no problem.

I've tried putting the mash in front of her to touch. Pre loaded spoons, also always offred her some of the vegetables as soft fingers for her pick up.

I thought it might be a leap because she started rolling onto her tummy all the time and is not pushing up on her arms but it's been 2.5 weeks now with no improvement. She isn't teething and has her 2 bottom theeth through without any fussing she is a super chill baby tho so even if it was bothering her she probably wouldn't fuss. I'm very lucky in that respect.
I'm eating with her as well. nothing is working and heath visitors advice was not helpful at all.

That’s a lot of bottles for a 9 month old. I’d introduce a couple of more meals of solids and cut a couple of bottles.

I spoke to HV today and she gave me number for speach and language to get some help after I described everything that's been going on. She said that it's a regression and food avasion. She said stop food for the time being and in a few weeks start again at the beginning with puree.
Yes it's rigid but I also keep this times as a back up and go by what she wants for example morning and afternoon naps are set time if she hasn't shown tiredness prior
G. P is today as well.

Has your HV made a referral to Speech and Language Therapy or do you have to self refer? If you have to self refer i would obviously do that but if you can, it might worth looking for a private SaLT who specialises in infant feeding.

Has she ever been assessed for Tongue Tie too @SUZSORTED? Babies with TT can often be reluctant to eat. Does she have any of these symptoms?

And has the HV saud when she wants to see you again?

I got given a number for the salt team. Hv said ring them. She also referred me to a fussy eating group. I also got told to not feed her solids for 1 week and slowly start again with some finger foods and puree. I also now think it could be teething because we had a day of crying most of the day and she is bitting everything..
I am going to start solids again next week and attend the fussy eating group but hold of the salt stuff for now

I’d ring the Salt number. If you do end up needing it the waiting lists can be very long. Much better yp get yourself on the list now, you can always call back and say you don’t the the referral anymore of everything turns out ok.

What are you giving for pain relief at yhe moment?

How are you both getting on today @SUZSORTED?

so we took a 8 days of food on g. p and h. v advice. she was on calpol for 6 days and 2 days of nerofen baby.
she ate really well for the first 2. 5 days. She had porridge x 2 and then she had Brocoli and wheat, Carrott and Egg and Yoghurt and apple and then now has gone back to refusing all food.
I bought new soft tip spoons. She was really egar to eat the first 2 days. I offered her a spoon to hold as well. She leaned forward into the spoon and opened her mouth.
I don't know why our progress suddenly stopped again. I tried giving finger food a piece of bannana and a piece of Brocoli. she touches it but doesn't pick it up.
I've made sure food is offered 2hrs after her last bottle. for example today she had milk at 5.30am and food offer at 7.30am and then 8am and yesterday milk at 10am food offer at 12:30

Sounds good - i would build and say you can offer her sonething at teatime as well - offer at a time she will be hungry enough but be totally relaxed about whether or not she eats any of it. More offering = more opportunities to try in a low pressure way.

I used to make sure at least one meal or snack was offered outside as less clean up!

(The advice i was given by the feeding specialists was to offer solids 20 mins before I would normally offer a feed)

she just woke from a 1hr nap rather than 10am milk I tried some baby porridge and she ate 16 spoons!
Now I will give milk at 11am, 1pm and 7pm I will offer her lunch at 4pm rather than a bottle. if she does not eat I will give her milk At 4.30pm does that sound OK?

I would not want to get in the habit of offering a bottle if she doesn't eat the food - she will get to know that her favourite milk is there almost immediately available.

Agree that there is no need to offer an alternative. Some babies do take more calories some days and less on others.

If she refuses anything, it’s safe to assume that she’s not hungry

Making Progress with Baby’s Solids – Wins! I dropped a bottle as well. Now she has 3 180ml and bedtime 210ml

We’re doing a little better with eating lately — not perfect, but definitely progress, and I’m counting all of it as wins.

I decided to do some batch cooking this week:
Red lentil & vegetable with potato and turmeric: She refused this completely.

Beef bolognese with pasta stars and vegetables: She had three and a half spoons. I also put some on her tray for exposure, and she explored it with her hands. I even ate with her to encourage her.

Salmon, potato, peas, and savoy cabbage: She ate eight spoons of this, but it took some encouragement. Initially, I just let her play with it on the tray. Two hours later, I offered it again, and I had to put some on my finger into her mouth before she accepted a spoon.

Every day, she also has a second solids meal of baby porridge (HiPP Organic). Today, I tried a mix of half HiPP Organic and half Actimel Berry Multigrain, and she accepted it all. She eats a lot of porridge — between 16 and 20 spoons, sometimes more.
I’m hoping progress continues!

I’ve also planned to batch cook some Persian-style baby stews made with yellow split peas, and have
chicken and vegetables as a 5th option

I’m keen to continue giving her porridge as her evening meal, mainly because it’s iron-fortified. She also has iron drops in her water every day, so I feel confident her iron intake is well covered.

No need to worry about iron if she’s having that much formula @SUZSORTED. The best thing you can do is expose her to a varied and nutritious diet

She doesn’t need iron drops if she’s having formula. You are risking constipation with too
much Iron. I really think you need to stop focusing on quantity and tracking spoonfuls. The most important thing is to eat with her for all meals, and don’t make separate meals for her it’s a waste of time and disheartening when she doesn’t eat them (which is totally normal). Make things youll eat as a family. Shes only 9 months you cant expect her to eat 3 meals. My 16 month old often doesnt eat 3 meals. I’d really recommend Sarah Ockwell smiths book about children and eating. The fact you are expecting ‘perfect’ worries me - baby and toddler appetite changes all the time, the worst thing you can do is stress and pressure, you want to create a positive association with food.

I do agree that too much iron can cause constipation. It can also reduce her appetite.

Well done fkr dropping a bottle. Are you dropping another soon?

I'm not expecting perfect at all and I batched cooked so it would reduce the cooking. We eat a very spice based diet and eat Iranian food at home so it just isn't possible to feed her what we eat. I looked into it and either our stews our just to rich and require slow cook with all the spice for the flavours so it isn't a case of adding at the end.

I did however make the
lentil and veg puree into a soup for us.
Veg and beef bolinaise we ate
salmon I bought x 4 2 for us and 2 pieces went into her batch food.

I'm told her formula isn't egnouth iron and until she starts to eat consist I will continue with iron drops. she opens her bowls most days when she is eating iron sources over the week I will drop giving her iron drops.

I only dropped a bottle 3 days ago and she is only 9 months so probably at 10/11 months when she starts eating better.

I think you have been misinformed on the iron @SUZSORTED Can I ask where you said that formula doesn’t provide enough?

Is there a reason too that she can’t have spice? My first was weaned at 4 months and had cardamom the first week. He still seems to be with us

As for dropping bottles, I think you’re right mor to drop another quite yet if you only dropped one 3 days ago but I would drop another next week. Afterall, you’re aiming for 450 mls by 10 months and as many posters on the thread have said, she won’t eat in any quantity yet as Shes just too full from milk.

Have a look at this guide, you’ll probably need from page 31.

And I agree with the PP, you do still seem to have a lot of anxiety over weaning your LO. I’ve never, ever counted spoonfuls. Have you spoken to your HV or your GP about your level of anxiety yet?

no I've not spoke about the level of Aniexty but I feel now she is eating again I feel a lot better. it was built up with her not eating well for a month. I have her 9 month check in 2 weeks and if I feel the need to I will bring it up again thank you for the guide I will find it most useful

I’ve never heard that some formula doesnt have enough iron? Also I think it’s fine for babies to have spicy food; just not with salt. I’d still suggest you discuss your anxiety with someone, it’s great she is eating now but it will keep changing-for example it’s very common for babies to eat less over 12 months as they don’t grow as fast. Just be prepared for that; take your lead from your baby.

the thing is I don't think its aniexty. I was worried because I know we have a few months before milk has to stop and was worried because she had stopped eating. now I'm so much calmer about things. For example she doesn't want to eat breakfast so I now give solids at lunch and at 4.30pm. she didn't want her porridge and bannana today so I just ended the meal and gave her a small 90ml because she had not had anything since 2pm. she did however eat a good amount at lunch I gave her fork mashed Carrott, Egg and Wheat cereal. this time I didn't count the spoons and just fed her until she showed signs she had egnouth. I posted to just get some help because advice from HV was not useful at all and I had tried all the basic things they said.

I'm so proud on her today for breakfast I offered 1 finger of toast and half a bannana. I was just expecting to treat it as exposure but she ate all the toast and crushed the bannana up in her hands.
I know not to expect this every time and I will just keep offering finger food and toast for breakfast, savory lunch and porridge and fruit or Yoghurt for dinner. I will try making some egg strips this week and offer in the morning to start with

That’s good. How are things now?

I recommend the First Steps nutrition trust resources - free online or you can get a hard copy posted to you