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BLW - some basic tips to get me started please!

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MandyBOO · 17/10/2006 21:01

DS is five and a half months old and is seemingly ready for food now. Am quite interested in the whole BLW process but dont really know where to start.

COuld someone please give me some basic tips to get me started.

Thanks !

OP posts:
SoupDragon · 17/10/2006 22:26

I'm starting my own blog here

swOOPingbatS · 17/10/2006 22:27

OMG, not twice in 2 minutes!!! you really got me on the other thread and then i came back for more

SoupDragon · 17/10/2006 22:28
swOOPingbatS · 17/10/2006 22:30
Hmm
TheBlairAitchProject · 18/10/2006 00:36

oh i've only just seen this thread, what a shame i'd have liked to discuss the subject... Never mind, watch me kill this stone dead.

Cod, you keep saying 'jsut gvie em food' or words to that effect (with the emphasis on 'to that effect' ) but that is precisely what I do. Shepherd's pie will probably be off our menu for a while, as mashed potato and mince is a bit tricky to pick up and we don't have a lot of leftover roast beef anyway, but of course DD manages perfectly well with casseroles, pasta dishes, really most of the things that DH and I eat. She's able to use a spoon now at 10 months but is more efficent with her fingers.

Skipping the purees was principally the attraction for me, and i have found that in comparison to spoon-feeding friends i get to eat my own meals hot a lot more often. Now, even if that's the only advantage i'm taking it gladly.

For the record it doesn't take very long for DD to fill herself up, and we tend to clean up our dishes etc while she's having some fruit so i do think it's a reasonably time-efficient manner of weaning. it was messy to begin with but after a month or so her aim got noticeably better.

With regards to their GCSEs it's impossible to say as the 'research' (tiny group, really, so more an indicator than actual concrete proof) was only conducted in 2002. Gill Rapley reports that all are 'good eaters' but who's to say they wouldn't have been anyway?

The one area that i do find interesting for the future is the difficult period that a lot of toddlers and their parents experience when the children seek to establish control over their environment and often use food as the battleground. Rapley has posited that never having removed control in that area, it may follow that children who have 'led' their own weaning from the start may not respond to food in this manner. (Will they move their rebellion elsewhere, of course? again, we don't know. DD may yet torment me with a profound love of bratz dolls).

My paediatrician friend mentioned that DD's fine motor control seemed particularly good for her age and when i told her about BLW she said that made sense as she was simply getting much more practice at picking things up than most babies. So will this matter in the long term, will she be a fine artist when she grows up? (Not if i have anything to do with it... i'm thinking of encouraging her to become a magistrate as they make loads of money and get heaps of respect).

Anyway, I like BLW principally because it is so easy but there is also a super-geeky part of me that is fascinated to see if any of Rapley's predictions turn out to be true. In the meantime I can't see that it could do DD any harm, and writing the blog does give me something to do other than join the Flylady thread and tidy up my house, which lord knows can only be a good thing.

TheBlairAitchProject · 18/10/2006 00:58

oh, and in answer to the OP my tip would be to join the yahoo group (am on the wrong computer to give you the address but hopefully someone else can help), look at my blog at babyledweaning.com and read the finger foods section from the bottom up as that will tell you what dd ate in the beginning. there are links to the Rapley research on the right hand side fo the blog. also google it as there is more and more info being posted all the time. there is a babycentre link but i hesitate to post it as they asked their resident HV for a comment and she advised mashing foods, thus rather missing the point. the link is on the blog if you want to read it, too.
good luck, it's all good clean fun.

CastsSpellsWitchySpells · 18/10/2006 11:00

Hmmm. I think I'd like to join the yahoo group, if I won't be booted out for giving an occasional spoonful of food. Can you tell me how to join when you next have the address handy Aitch?

On the subject of mashed potato, I have actually turned it into finger food. Once mashed (and leave it reasonably stiff), put into an icing bag with a large nozzle on it, and pipe into little swirls onto a baking sheet. Then bake in a hot oven until crisped up on the outside, and obviously allow to cool before serving. Voila - finger food mashed potato .

I think that shepherds pie made into balls might work this way too, perhaps with a quick breadcrumb coating, but I haven't got round to trying that yet. DD did in fact just eat shepherds pie as it was with her hands. Quite messy, but thankfully that day she let me help out with a spoon whilst she concentrated on the accompanying veg.

Now, about all this mess thing, which is still worrying me. Aitch seems to imply that the mess is made simply by food missing the mouth. That isn't the case here (although a bit naturally falls this way). DD quite purposefully picks up an item of food, moves her arm til is is outstretched to her side, and then quite intentionally opens up her hand to allow the food to fall from it. Is this the same sort of behaviour that you experienced blw'ers have witnessed?

TheBlairAitchProject · 18/10/2006 12:19

ooooh yes, dd does that too. that's why i have a big piece of washable wallpaper which i keep rolled under the sofa until such times as i bring the highchair out. it was one of the very first things i ever blogged on. my friend has an old bit of lino which she finds invaluable.
i think the dropping business is a developmental thing, rather than specifically a blw thing. i find that if dd is playing in a highchair (say in a cafe or something) then she drops toy cars or whatever in order to see what happens next. and her puree fed pals do the same.
she definitely does it with her food if it's something she doesn't like or if she's finished eating. that, and pouring some water into her highchair tray to splash in it, are the signals that mealtime is over as far as i'm concerned.
the yahoo group is here and there is a big chat about mess going on that i'm sure will be helpful.
the thing is, i've never weaned the 'normal' way, so i'm only guessing. but i'd have thought that whenever you start self-feeding, be it at 6 months or a year, they are going to drop things and throw things about. and i'd rather that she do it now, while her throwing arm is weaker. i'm not sure if there is a way of avoiding the mess altogether, just delaying it. (and let's not forget that BLW-ers never have to go through all that 'lumpy purees' business, which looks such a bore).
good luck with the yahoo group, i'm quite sure that you won't be papped oot for some spoonfeeding, it's not evangelical baby led weaning, there are loads of people who do a mix.

SoupDragon · 18/10/2006 12:26

"when the children seek to establish control over their environment and often use food as the battleground" Snigger. BabyDragon's doing it already

Whenever I make Hub's porridge pancakes I think "these are inspired!" and then, BabyDragon won't eat them. Today was particularly amusing because she wouldn't eat the pieces I gave her to feed herself but would eat those pieces I put on a spoon and spoonfed her. She's beyond my comprehension It's a good job she's a neglected 3rd born child or I'd be worried about her eating.

TheBlairAitchProject · 18/10/2006 12:32

she is clearly very advanced for her age, Soupdragon...

SoupDragon · 18/10/2006 12:35

She's certainly very "knowing". she has that been-here-before look abou her. Doesn't bode well for the teenage years.

So, what shall I give her for lunch today?

QueenQuootieSpookypieBee · 18/10/2006 12:47

Aitch - IM on the FLYlady thread!

TheBlairAitchProject · 18/10/2006 13:40

i know quootie, i have peeked at it before and considered joining as i could do with a kick up the arse. i did sign up to her group but found the emails freaky/funny at first and then freaky/fknirritating later so i cancelled it. you could be my personal flylady...
for lunch? i'm having toast and marmite as DD's grandma has taken her out for the day and all responsibility to eat properly has left with her. DH has just brought me some lindt chocolate, hurrah! (by the way, we recently had great fun with great big slices of corn on the cob, soupy, you could try them. and i mean that dd and i had fun... not dh and i.)

SoupDragon · 18/10/2006 13:56

She scattered a mix of peas, sweetcorn, cheese, ham and sweet potato over the floor and crumbled up an oat cake and a rice cake. F-knows if she put any of it in her mouth but she's now asleep on the living room floor after a breastfeed

Corn onthe cob is no use - one throw and it's gone. loose corn lasts much longer and spreads further.

(As well as dropping stuff over the edge whilst looking innocently at me with huge eyes, she scrapes it off the table onto her lap where you can't see it and assume she's eaten it until you pick her up.)

TheBlairAitchProject · 18/10/2006 14:12

ROFL... dd does that too, and when you pick her up at the end of the meal the entire contents of her lap hits the deck. i like to think of your DD as the 'control' to the Rapley experiment. fed every which way, including trails of crumbs on the floor, and still as enigmatic as ever.

CastsSpellsWitchySpells · 18/10/2006 14:26

Thanks Aitch - have put in my request to join the yahoo group and look forward to the mess conversation!

SD - we find babycorn goes down well here. A piece can last for ages, and is much easier to clear up than lots of little kernels.

SoupDragon · 18/10/2006 15:48

It was "demanding" to be spoonfed porridge pancakes that finished me off - I nearly laughed out loud in starbucks whilst thinking of your "two babies no spoons" tag line thingy.

Enigmatic is so much nice than "contrary little madame"...

hub2dee · 18/10/2006 15:51

LOL soupy. dd (15 months) goes contrary on fingers too sometimes. The very best poridge pancakes - that rare blend of moistness and firmess - will stick to spoons even with a bit of a flail.

TheBlairAitchProject · 18/10/2006 16:20

what impresses me about babydragon is her ability to act contrary to her previous contrarinesses... consistent, yes, but consistently baffling so where does that leave everyone? (running around after her trying to guess which caprice may take her next? aaah, babydragon san, the mists are clearing...)

PS dd does use a spoon sometimes but i thought we'd go in hard with the tagline.

hub2dee · 18/10/2006 16:35

"Two babies no spoons, washable wallpaper, highchair covered in sh1t"

TheBlairAitchProject · 18/10/2006 16:39

i prefer crud, but yes, it has a ring to it.
where have you been by the way, hub? would you look in on the blog every now and then to keep us on the straight and narra, given that you are the BLW guvnor?

hub2dee · 18/10/2006 16:44

I've been here. Just asleep. Most people can't tell the difference.

SoupDragon · 18/10/2006 16:52

"highchair covered in sh1t"... are you doing Baby Led Potty Training already??!

hub2dee · 18/10/2006 16:55

I thought I'd save on the cost of the potty, and I don't like contributing plastic to the landfill, soupy.

SoupDragon · 18/10/2006 16:57