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11MO being sick after evening bottle

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Chocaholics · 16/03/2012 19:06

DD is 11.5 mo, 3 times this week she has had tea (we are doing BLW) then had a bath, when we have given her her evening bottle she has drank about 4oz then thrown it up over me.

It doesn't seem like she eats that much at tea as loads ends up on the floor but could this mean she is over eating and being sick as full?

Should we cut out the evening bottle all together?

Otherwise she is fine, no other sickness, no temperature etc and after being sick she is perfectly happy.

Hope someone can give some advice.

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loveroflife · 16/03/2012 22:11

Hi Choc,

Same thing happened with ds when we started blw at 6months - have you just started BLW now or have you been doing it since 6 months?

Even though it doesn't seem like she is maybe eating loads, she is eating enough to not be able to take her bottle. The sickness (from my experience) was ds saying I've had enough mummy. It stopped when I did the following:

I would just leave as long a gap as possible between tea and bottle to let her tummy settle. We used to have tea sharp at 5, would go on no later than 5.15. Straight into the bath especially if he has tom pasta and yoghurt! Out of bath at 5.45ish into pj's and cbeebies/reading until 6.45ish when he had his bottle, teeth cleaned and in bed asleep by 7.

If tea went later than 5.30, he would struggle to have his bottle at 6.45, the gap was to close.

I wouldn't drop the bottle as she will need this to help her go through the night (how does she sleep?) and I think it would be better to have a lighter dinner and full bottle, especially as you said she doesn't seem to be eating that much, therefore she will get more calories from milk than food. Also, if ds didn't have enough of his bottle, he would wake up hungry in the night.

Milk is the most important thing at her age and the food sort of fits in around that. One other point maybe give her a heavier lunch and a lighter tea (less carbs) and she may take more of her milk.

Just my opinion and others may not agree, you can also post on the forums at babyledweaning.com - they are very helpful and call health visitor although mine wasn't that clued up about blw..good luck

Chocaholics · 17/03/2012 07:15

Hi Lover

We have been doing BLW since 6 months and this has only become an issue this week. I went back to work last week and DD is in nursery, she has lunch there at 11:30 then 'tea' at 15:30, unfortunately the earliest we can eat in the evening is about 5:45, she seems to play with this food as I guess she isn't really hungry as she ate just over 2 hours before.

But I don't want her to have no food from 15:30 all the way to 7:00 the next morning as that seems like ages! But she is also really tired by 18:30 and we then bath her and put her to bed.

Not sure if it is best not to give her any food in the evening and just a big bottle?? I really wish babies came with a manual! Just feel like once we have one problem figured out a new one arises and makes us feel clueless again!

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Ineedacleaneriamalazyslattern · 17/03/2012 07:36

What is she having for tea at nursery. It is sounding like she's full. I would be inclined to give het a smaller bottle with a sandwich or something light at about 6 rather than try and get her to eat a meal earlier.
Ds2 is a bit like this and I found that it helped cutting back his evening meal and giving it as supper with a smaller drink of milk on the days I'm working.

Chocaholics · 17/03/2012 08:01

She has things like chicken casserole, fish pie for tea but normally doesn't eat more than half. I will try a sandwich and some milk for her supper and see how that works. Think I am just worried about her waking in the night hungry as she has just finally started sleeping through and seems so much happier as she use to be as she use to wake several times a night but was still tired in the morning but wouldn't go back to sleep so ended up very grumpy!

Thank you for the help

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dizzy77 · 18/03/2012 10:08

I've just reintroduced the dream feed at 10ish for my 10mo as he's dropped his milk right back in the day in the past couple of weeks. He wasn't interested in evening bottles after tea at 5.30ish but was waking, screaming hungry, at 2am, after being a pretty good sleeper. He'll take 2-4oz then go through to morning, if we're lucky.

Like you Chocaholics, I wasn't convinced that much was going "in" at tea time but given the lack of interest in the bottle can only assume he's taking what he needs. I'm sure I'll be back on here in a few weeks wondering how to stop the DF again!

loveroflife · 18/03/2012 19:10

"I went back to work last week and DD is in nursery, she has lunch there at 11:30 then 'tea' at 15:30, unfortunately the earliest we can eat in the evening is about 5:45, she seems to play with this food as I guess she isn't really hungry as she ate just over 2 hours before.

But I don't want her to have no food from 15:30 all the way to 7:00 the next morning as that seems like ages! But she is also really tired by 18:30 and we then bath her and put her to bed"

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Hi again Choc,

It looks like as you say she isn't hungry having had a meal already at 15.30 before dinner again at 17.45. What does she have for tea at nursery? It would be a lot for her to have a meal at 15.30, another dinner at 17.45 and a full bottle as well at 18.30 - don't think any DC could manage that!

So, what might be a good idea is keep her having her tea at nursery at 15.30 and almost give her a light bite at 17.45 - half a banana, youghurt etc rather that another meal and that won't make her too full before her bottle.

The aim is to get her to have a full bottle before bed, so she goes to bed satisfied, so I would just adjust accordingly what you give her for dinner at 17.45 so she isn't so full she is sick.

If she is still being sick, just reduce the amount the following evening and maybe less heavy carbs until you find an amount that she is comfortable with and doesn't make her sick. You feel so bad though when they are sick, I always used to get upset even though DS was fine - he was also very dehydrated after throwing up.

Also, maybe if she is having a huge dinner at 15.30 she may not even need anything until her bottle at 18.30 - bearing in mind that is the same time difference between breakfast and lunch. I wouldn't personally increase the milk intake though - stick to what worked before nursery.

OR THE OTHER OPTION

You could ask the nursery to give her something lighter and try and give her a normal dinner at 17.45 (basically reverse the previous point) I don't know about nursery though and that might not be appropriate.

The only other thing I would say is that if we go later than 17.15 for dinner ds struggles to take his night bottle, as you say 45 mins is too close of a time difference for their little tummies to have a full dinner and full bottle so close together.

I totally agree that you don't want to be putting her to bed later though as you're in a good routine and that hour later would probably make a lot of difference to you and her! Phone your Health Visitor tomorrow though and ask her what she thinks and just copy and paste your post onto the forums at babyledweaning.com - they are great and very helpful.

HTH - am no expert at all just giving advice as another mum....

QueenCee · 18/03/2012 19:25

We have had exactly the same problem. DD is 16 months old and been doing the same on and off for about 10 months. Always her bed time bottle, she's never sick at any other time.We have been to the doctor... They say it's strange but she's not unwell. We have tried an earlier evening meal to lengthen the gap, we have tried cutting out the bottle of milk altogether, we tried changing it from formula to cows milk and back again. We have tried everything but no one has given an an answer that works.
What's strange is one night you can give her dinner and bottle as usual and she's fine... And might be fine for 2/3 months then she will have a few days or a week of vomiting.
I spoke to the HV the other day about my newborn and happened to mention this... She straight away said it's an attention seeking thing. She knows you will stay for longer and not leave her until it's all cleaned up. She buying time.
It might sound crazy but it's the best explanation I've had for it.
Just a thought.

loveroflife · 18/03/2012 19:54

"She straight away said it's an attention seeking thing. She knows you will stay for longer and not leave her until it's all cleaned up. She buying time.
It might sound crazy but it's the best explanation I've had for it.
Just a thought."

What a bizarre, horrible thing to say? God, these health visitors really do stuff by the manual don't they? A 16 mo making themselves throw up for attention?? Never heard anything so strange and disturbing ever.

lepetitchoufleur · 19/03/2012 23:28

Hi Choc does your LO have a runny nose? My DS can get very snotty, and a nice steamy bath gets it all lose so sometimes having his bottle afterwards a bit of snot goes down the back of the throat, makes him gag just a little et voila, puke. Doesn't happen any other time of the day. Sadly there's not much you can do if this is the case other than keep them very upright when giving the bottle and hope for the best. Of course, if your DD isn't at all bunged up this will be totally irrelevant to you! :o

Bayliss1 · 20/03/2012 14:43

My dd does exactly the same when she is teething. Could this be the problem for your LO??

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