Turning my child vegan/vegetarian

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So title sounds a little off but basically me and my DP are massive meat eaters love meat will never change. However out two year old has always ate meat its not something she loves but she eats it with her meals.

We have watched a programme about meat and how its getting g pumped with shit I don't no the ins and outs but overall we don't want our daughter eating it anymore. Can some one help me with what we can do with it. She gets alot of veg and fruit already dairy free milk and yogurt because of allergys. And sometimes spaghetti or beans and brown bread. We try and give her potato or sweet potato as sides. We don't mind giving her fish as this certain chemical isnt used on fish. So is that vegan? Can she eat quorn? How much is to much quorn is it dangerous ect ect... Just need some help really if I'm being morbid or Completely uneducated please do tell me haha

It doesn't sound very workable to me to give your daughter vegan food when you're meat lovers. What if she asks for some of what you're having - will you refuse?

How about cutting down the amount of meat you all have, so having several vegetarian or vegan days per week, then some fish and some organic meat, which presumably wouldn't have the chemicals you're concerned about.

What are the chemicals you mean by the way?

I'm all for a vegetarian or vegan diet but don't think it would work this way personally.

I think it's unworkable if you're big meat eaters, why not look into more locally produced organic meat options and cut down how much you all eat

If your referring to What The Health I suggest you look at the reviews done by doctors and scientists. Not the best basis for taking meat out of the diet.

Why not research it a bit more rather than rush into anything. What chemicals are you taking about? Why would you still eat it while depriving your child? Was it a program based on UK practices or other countries?

If you give your DD fish she most certainly won't be vegan or vegetarian.

I would say the only thing workable would be to have a few nights where you all eat a vegetarian or vegan meal.
Or you all go vegetarian or vegan.
Quorn I like but I do know there is a few who it doesn't agree with. You use it like you would meat in a meal.

Buy good quality meat. Smaller amounts but better quality.

Stop watching car crash TV, keep eating a balanced diet (including meat). There are so many faddy scare stories, I'm a true believer in "a little bit of everything does you good".

Fish isn't vegan but there's no harm in giving her fish (pescetarian diet), in fact, it's probably a good idea.

Do you think you want her to be vegan or vegetarian? Can she eat eggs - I see she is already dairy free for milk/yoghurt. Does she eat cheese?

A vegan diet also excludes honey and figs (in some cases), do you really want this or do you just want to exclude meat?

There is vegan quorn available, it has a quite high health rating but is also processed.

Common vegan meals are:

Cereal with soy (or other) milk
Peanut butter on toast/bagel
Baked beans on toast
Avocado & tomato on toast
Sushi
Veggie wraps
Veggie burger with home made wedges & salad
Burritos
Broccoli pasta
Vegetables in Sate sauce with rice
Hummus with pitta bread and falafel/salad
Lentil spag bol or lentil lasagne/shepherds pie
Sorbet/fruit/Coconut yoghurt for pudding
Custard/Bread and Butter pudding made with soy milk
Vegan Jelly & Ice Cream!

Linda McCartney does a good range of convincing meat substitutes, it's more expensive than trying to cook the above though.

If you look on youtube there are a lot of videos of "what my vegan toddler eats in a day".

My teen DD is vegan and I have to be very careful with her nutrition, so I would advise that you understand the nutritional needs of a todder before going vegan. There's plenty of help out there to help you though, good luck!

I literally just groaned. How can you be so stupid? For the love of god go speak to a nutritionist. So long as you don't buy shitty meat from Asda or whatever it will be fine. Did it not even cross your mind that organic meat, by its very nature, isn't pumped full of anything?

I eat loads of quorn, I don't limit it, but I have heard some people say it disagrees with them and makes them feel a bit sick.

I have to ask - if you won't let your daughter eat these chemicals, do you really want to ingest them yourself? It will be hard to explain to your daughter why she can't eat meat but you can.

She can be perfectly healthy as a pescatarian, vegetarian or vegan, and I think it's totally workable if you put some more time into research.

There are some horrors in fruit and veg too. Remember the turmeric with horrible chemicals in it a few years back?

Buy the best quality food you can and have a varied diet.

And yes, quirk mince makes my tummy a bit squishy and makes ds really sick.

I think it's equivalent to banning your dd from sweets and cakes for health reasons but eating them in front of her yourselves. Not workable or reasonable or fair.

Fauxtatoes, ah, people do love to hear that they can carry on with their bad habits, don't they.

I recommend you delve a little deeper, the What The Health documentary is spot on.
Here are some starting points:

www.facebook.com/drjoelkahn/posts/709531745897241?fref=gc&dti=460933167352771&hc_location=ufi

www.facebook.com/drgarth/posts/1540695975951305?fref=gc&dti=460933167352771&hc_location=ufi

www.facebook.com/drgarth/videos/1541160822571487/?fref=gc&dti=460933167352771&hc_location=ufi

www.facebook.com/rostfeld/posts/10155585963707728?fref=gc&dti=460933167352771&hc_location=ufi

OP, you are doing the right thing questioning your diets, please start using nutritionfacts.org/ as your go-to resource.

Lead by example. I'm vegan for health reasons (high blood pressure, there is a very obvious difference in my numbers after a few weeks). I love meat. I don't eat it though because I don't believe it is the best thing for my body. I certainly wouldn't expect my small children to be able to do something if I myself am unable to commit to it. Personally I'd consider trying to integrate some vegetarian/vegan meals into ALL of your diets, meat and dairy are often high in fat and cholesterol, and are linked to an increase in cancers of the digestive system and breasts, having a few vegetarian meals a week (and by that I mean vegetable and whole grain based, not a cheese pizza!) will benefit you all.

I think it would be very very difficult for you to feed your child a different diet to your own. Children learn by copying and I think that would very hard on all of you.

However you're totally right to be questioning your families meat consumption, maybe you would all be better to cut down as a family.