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Obscene rent increase

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user97213982742 · 31/07/2026 23:16

Landlord has served Form 4a increasing my rent by £205 a month from October. This is a 46% increase.

The accompanying letter states

“After careful consideration, we have made the decision to implement an increase in the rent. This reflects the continued rise in property maintenance and operating costs, aligns the rent more closely with current market values, and will help support planned maintenance and improvement works to ensure the property is kept up as best as possible with future regulatory changes to the private rent sector”.

I understand that maintenance costs and improvements are the landlords responsibility and shouldn’t be a reason for a rent increase. And it is the landlords responsibility to ensure property meets the forthcoming EPC standards coming into force for private rented accommodation.

My wages haven’t increased by 46% a month.

I’ve lived here for 20 years. And the property only has one door. No fire doors, only 1 double glazed window that has blown, and does not meet fire escape route standards If there was a fire downstairs I have no other means of exit?

What can I do please

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ReadingSoManyThreads · 01/08/2026 19:29

user97213982742 · 01/08/2026 17:42

The owner is not an individual. As stated numerous times previously they have bought a large portfolio from the previous owners who also owned them all.

It's still a business. The main aim of a businesses is to make profit.

It makes no sense for a property company or individual to have rental properties for private let and NOT run the property business in a profitable manner.

I'm not sure why you cannot understand how businesses work, it's really not difficult.

The new owner of the property business has obviously reviewed the financials, seen that the properties are achieving well under market rates, and is now getting them inline with market rates, this should not come as a shock to you, it's basic business sense.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 01/08/2026 19:32

Friendlygingercat · 01/08/2026 16:57

When online platforms, mail carriers, Paypal and packaging suppliers put up their prices I claim for increased expenses against profits. If I passed it onto my customers no one would buy anything. So I pass it back to the tax man as a business expense. So I am not convinces by LLs constantly whining about having to raise their rents because of increased expenses.Its easy for me to go to Tesco if Sainsbury raise their prices. But this is not so easy for renters because they are a captive audience.

Expenditure on insurance, routine maintenance, agent's fees, compliance certificates and like for like replacements are tax deductible business expenses since they are incurred solely and exclusively for business purposes. They should be passed back to the tax man and not on to the tenant. I suspect a lot of LLs are double dipping by using these increased expenses to raise rents while still deducting the expenditure from taxable income. I would be asking for a list of these increased expenses and an explanation as to why they are not being treated as tax deductibles. Im not here to pay your taxes matie.

You sounds really clueless when it comes to property business financials/taxation.

Perhaps read up on it before making such silly comments as if you think you know about it, you're embarrassing yourself.

And to add, a LL has NO obligation to justify their business expenses to tenants, if a tenant asked me for proof of my expenses, I'd tell them to mind their own bloody business.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 01/08/2026 19:35

NoWordForFluffy · 01/08/2026 16:26

Well that's nonsense. The landlord has a legal obligation to maintain the property, regardless of the rent they've chosen to charge.

You're the one speaking nonsense, you clearly have no clue of what a business is all about.

Why do people think that a private rental property business is the only business who shouldn't be allowed to make profit - the mind boggles.

InterestQ · 01/08/2026 19:40

i Was going to blame the renters rights act as I have had to increase my tenant’s rent for the first time ever, after coughing up over £1400 in fees for the license that is me confirming I do what I already do. The agent assessed the tenant pays £700 pcm under market, and tried to get me to go up £400 and I asked them to increase it by £150 pcm but I wouldn’t have done it if not for Labour taking more than a month’s rent off me for no benefit to the tenant.

if you can find somewhere nicer for your current rent or less than the new proposed amount, go for it.

Overtheatlantic · 01/08/2026 19:42

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Beeloux · 01/08/2026 19:43

Boreded · 01/08/2026 10:19

I literally live in Teesside myself, with family who live in trimdon (pit village).

I went onto right move, and only 6 2 bed flats (this is what OP confirmed she had) at 450 or less. They were mostly Teesside and Bishop Auckland.

You do not get any real volume of private rentals at the rate OP was paying, perhaps council houses, but OP isn’t talking about a council house and we can’t use council rents as a measure here.

I was paying that for a 2 bed in Gateshead 2 years ago. Now in a town close by and pay 550 for a 2 bed flat in good shape.

TourdeCrema · 01/08/2026 20:03

Batrat · 01/08/2026 11:34

Average rent as a percentage of income? It was 28% in 2010 and it’s now 36%, it was 32% when Labour came into power

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https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a78be4ae5274a2acd189739/2173283.pdf this is the report for 2010 and it has the percentage as 43%

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/housing/bulletins/privaterentalaffordabilityengland/2023 this is for 34% in 2023

https://www.statista.com/statistics/752217/household-rent-to-income-ratio-by-region-uk/ and 36% for 2025

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a78be4ae5274a2acd189739/2173283.pdf

ReadingSoManyThreads · 01/08/2026 20:04

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I'm teetotal and don't feel I was rude in the comment you quoted.

As for my business credentials, I have a business degree from a prestigious UK university, I have worked in a senior management capacity for multi-million pound businesses in the UK, and I now own two successful businesses, one of which is a property business.

Does that satisfy you that I am qualified to comment on this thread?

ETA - I also have my accountancy business tax qualification!

prh47bridge · 01/08/2026 20:52

@ReadingSoManyThreads - There are some strange ideas about business on Mumsnet. I was once assured that a business reducing its costs whilst its income was fixed would not result in increased profit. The idea that profit was the amount by which income exceeded expenditure was met with scornful derision by some posters.

Princessfluffy · 01/08/2026 21:02

Even with the steep increase your rent seems INCREDIBLY cheap to me. In my city a 2 bedroom flat is around £1800 a month. £650 is a small single room in a house share. I imagine that wages in my city are not three times what they are where you live so presumably it’s still comparatively very affordable?

Housing costs generally at the moment though are really high so “comparatively affordable” I’m aware doesn’t necessarily translate into easily affordable.

Batrat · 01/08/2026 21:05

prh47bridge · 01/08/2026 20:52

@ReadingSoManyThreads - There are some strange ideas about business on Mumsnet. I was once assured that a business reducing its costs whilst its income was fixed would not result in increased profit. The idea that profit was the amount by which income exceeded expenditure was met with scornful derision by some posters.

I think there’s a large group of people who’ve never known anything but living on benefits, you can tell by the odd world view and just utter inability to grasp how things work from business to tax to mortgages to motivation for why people even work so hard. It’s really quite worrying

britneyisfreebutnotokay · 01/08/2026 21:21

You’ll have to leave. We’ve been evicted because landlord doesn’t want to update the property because of the new rules

Friendlygingercat · 02/08/2026 01:41

Op has nothing to lose by applying to the tribunal regardless of the result. She will gain herself 4-6 months of breathing space to look about at other properties and make plans. The rent cannot go up by other than what the LL proposes.

In her place I would contact all the other tenants in the block to urge them to do the same. Make the LL deal with a tribunal challenge from every tenant. and work for their bloody money.

This creates a massive administrative and financial burden for the landlord. When an entire block challenges a rent increase simultaneously, the workload multiplies exponentially because the landlord must defend each valuation individually. The landlord must provide separate market evidence, comparable properties, and documentation for every single flat or dwelling. They cannot use a single blanket defence; they must account for varying floor levels, views, sizes, and internal wear for each unit. Handling dozens or hundreds of tribunal bundles requires immense time, tracking, and organization. Hiring lawyers or surveyors to manage a block-wide dispute (or even getting an agent to do it) quickly becomes incredibly expensive.

dancehysterical22 · 02/08/2026 02:18

Boreded · 01/08/2026 01:12

Also out of over 110,000 rentals available on right move in the uk, there are only 6 flats of 2 bedrooms or more (excluding shares and retirement/student) that are 450 a month…half are in the worst estates in Teesside

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You can’t even get anything that cheap in the worst parts of Glasgow!

NeelyOHara · 02/08/2026 06:34

user97213982742 · 01/08/2026 17:00

I have had rent increases over the last 20 years - reasonable ones. Certainly nothing like 46%

The owners knew they were buying properties that are over 150 years old when they purchased the portfolio of over 50!

So what?

user97213982742 · 02/08/2026 07:25

Friendlygingercat · 02/08/2026 01:41

Op has nothing to lose by applying to the tribunal regardless of the result. She will gain herself 4-6 months of breathing space to look about at other properties and make plans. The rent cannot go up by other than what the LL proposes.

In her place I would contact all the other tenants in the block to urge them to do the same. Make the LL deal with a tribunal challenge from every tenant. and work for their bloody money.

This creates a massive administrative and financial burden for the landlord. When an entire block challenges a rent increase simultaneously, the workload multiplies exponentially because the landlord must defend each valuation individually. The landlord must provide separate market evidence, comparable properties, and documentation for every single flat or dwelling. They cannot use a single blanket defence; they must account for varying floor levels, views, sizes, and internal wear for each unit. Handling dozens or hundreds of tribunal bundles requires immense time, tracking, and organization. Hiring lawyers or surveyors to manage a block-wide dispute (or even getting an agent to do it) quickly becomes incredibly expensive.

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It is not an apartment block. They are individual properties

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rwalker · 02/08/2026 08:30

On the face of it it’s a massive increase but the only reason it’s that big is because the original rent was unusually low

as others said the only issue really is a blown double glazed unit the prop is hardly neglected and you aren’t living in squalor

Friendlygingercat · 02/08/2026 08:40

I see companies like this advertising on the LL forums, Sell your portfolio to us and we will manage your tenants. No need to evict them, Bla bla bla. Small landlords who want to get out of the market (but don't want to evict good tenants) fall for this and sell up.

Portfolio buy-out schemes often exploit tenanted properties by offering low prices and hiking rents to force tenants out without formal evictions. These companies typically use strategies like aggressive rent increases and minimal upgrades to target vulnerable occupants. Most will leave without a fight because they can't afford the new rents and don't know their tribunal rights. Its not like the new owners have modernised all the properties. brought them up to standard and then seek to recoup their investment. They are doing it up front to drive out the existing tenants who are the "kind" they don't want.

If your neighbours have been hit with a similar increase then you can still go for it. There is strength in numbers and if nothing else you will inflict maximum financial pain on the purchaser and force them into a long drawn out battle which will cost them in the pocket where it hurts.

I would do this in a heartbeat because I am a bitch.

Newtt · 02/08/2026 09:15

rwalker · 02/08/2026 08:30

On the face of it it’s a massive increase but the only reason it’s that big is because the original rent was unusually low

as others said the only issue really is a blown double glazed unit the prop is hardly neglected and you aren’t living in squalor

It does sound like the OP’s rent was below market rate for some time.

Even of OP appeals, whatever the rate is ultimately set at now, I think OP should be prepared for the allowed annual increase to be applied every year. The corporate LL is a different beast…

I work in an industry where I am reasonably familiar with the small LL and rental income - all of the LL I have experience of are good and maintain the properties well.

Recently we have seen numerous smaller LL selling up properties that had long term, (generally) good, tenants, whose rent had not been increased on a long time. The tenants were evicted so that the properties could be sold as normal domestic residences.

However, one LL did have a tenant who was still in receipt of housing benefit (if that’s the correct term), but had stopped paying rent. It took around two years of legal fees and correspondence etc to evict them.

The increased regulation and lack of support for (good) LL does seem to be impacting the small LL market, with a steady stream selling up.

The government / MN may not like LL, but until local authorities provide an alternative, it would be much more sensible to work with LL rather then create the scenario where a significant number are leaving and reducing the rental supply further. This in itself will increase rental market rate…

I would hazard a guess that it will be more of the ‘good’ LL selling up - as the ‘bad’ ones who don’t stick to the rules now, won’t in future either.

Friendlygingercat · 02/08/2026 09:25

I'm handllng a case for a relative now who is opposing a rent increase. She has had rent rises year on year (with no improvement to the property) but has reached her financial limit. As a pensioner she has no way to improve her income. In this case the problem is not the LL who is risk averse, anything for a quiet life and lazy. Has left everything to an agent who had made egregious errors over the course of the tenancy. The LL does not know about these errors but they could cost her thousands of pounds in fines if/when revealed to the various regulatory bodies. The agent could lose his shitty little business in a heartbeat. Think trading standards and possible police involvement. We have gone in with a low token offer, mentioning the tribunal but nothing about the errors. That may come later in the bargaining sequence if iI have to begin to twist the knife. I am enjoying this sooooo much.

Notanevillandlord · 02/08/2026 09:47

backformoreofthesame · 01/08/2026 08:43

Well I guess you can blame Labour for not stopping the profiteering that goes on - my taxes are being used to pay of private landlords mortgages . Revolting

Your taxes are also being used to fund people’s lifestyles who can’t be bothered to work, your taxes are being used to give these unemployed people subsidised council/HA housing, your taxes are being used to prop up salaries because feckless ex husbands/partners refuse to pay for the children they’ve created. I could go on.
Personally, I find feckless fathers revolting. How could you do that to your own child?

Op try and see if you can negotiate with your ll. Perhaps offer to meet them half way. Or move - but bear in mind you’ll need 5 weeks’ deposit and perhaps a home owning guarantor and will need to meet the rent affordability criteria. Since the RRA lls are being stricter on who they rent to.

NeelyOHara · 02/08/2026 10:10

Newtt · 02/08/2026 09:15

It does sound like the OP’s rent was below market rate for some time.

Even of OP appeals, whatever the rate is ultimately set at now, I think OP should be prepared for the allowed annual increase to be applied every year. The corporate LL is a different beast…

I work in an industry where I am reasonably familiar with the small LL and rental income - all of the LL I have experience of are good and maintain the properties well.

Recently we have seen numerous smaller LL selling up properties that had long term, (generally) good, tenants, whose rent had not been increased on a long time. The tenants were evicted so that the properties could be sold as normal domestic residences.

However, one LL did have a tenant who was still in receipt of housing benefit (if that’s the correct term), but had stopped paying rent. It took around two years of legal fees and correspondence etc to evict them.

The increased regulation and lack of support for (good) LL does seem to be impacting the small LL market, with a steady stream selling up.

The government / MN may not like LL, but until local authorities provide an alternative, it would be much more sensible to work with LL rather then create the scenario where a significant number are leaving and reducing the rental supply further. This in itself will increase rental market rate…

I would hazard a guess that it will be more of the ‘good’ LL selling up - as the ‘bad’ ones who don’t stick to the rules now, won’t in future either.

It’s what so many posters on here claim they want though, no more private landlords.
So this is the alternative. Slow hand clap.

rwalker · 02/08/2026 10:35

backformoreofthesame · 01/08/2026 08:43

Well I guess you can blame Labour for not stopping the profiteering that goes on - my taxes are being used to pay of private landlords mortgages . Revolting

Your taxes aren’t paying anyone’s mortgage
they are paying for someone to be housed

practically all businesses are financed the Issa brothers who own Asda are financed to the hilt been I bought a loaf of bread I’m not paying there mortgage
just like when you rent a flat your paying for a service irrespective of how it’s financed
out of interest if the LL has no mortgage should the flat be free to rent

PeopleWatching17 · 02/08/2026 11:22

WoollyandSarah · 31/07/2026 23:30

I think you were paying £446 and will be paying £650.

I don't know about the market around the country, but that sounds pretty cheap, but a bit of a dive.

If they are going to improve the property, £2,400 a year won't get them far. Maybe they should have charged more historically and upgraded the property, but they can only start from where they are.

I agree with the maths. I was beginning to think I was being dense.