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Friend keeps borrowing while covering most household costs for her partner

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BlueJellycat · Yesterday 09:46

I hope MN don't put these 30 days only onto SM as there is worry here of my friend being financially abused.

Inspired by another thread this morning. I have a friend who often asks me to lend her money. It's never much and she always pays me back. However she has recently told me that her partner takes home just under 2k a month. She lives with him in his place and from what she says she pays the rent and food etc. He pays bills. From my household costs I'd guess she pays 3/4 or more of the household costs at least and has zero claim to the rental.

I have said to her that she should set up a joint account but she hasn't. I get the impression she doesn't feel comfortable talking to him about a fair share of splitting bills or putting money aside. Normally I'd say it's none of my business but I'm lending her money which i really didt mind until i heard this. Until recently she had no idea of his income. What really worries me now is that they was planning to move to rental over double in price. They didn't have the money conversation as thats how she has just found out his income, it fell through and she still won't have a sit down to plan finances going forward. I'm worried for her as he doesn't seem to be the emotionally intelligent person she raves about and she is so reluctant to ask him to save and more fairly split costs. But even more I'm worried they move she won't cope with costs and I will be asked to bail out over her asking him.

I can't think what more I can do beyound telling her not to move until they have a shared joint pot of the entire moving costs as I know he will never cough that up. Its never going to happen.

He was supposed to be saving for the last year but in the end applied for a loan for the deposit. Again I know none of my business but I could almost feel a "can you lend me the deposit" request. He wasn't saving. He doesn't share his fair burden. She doesn't feel able to talk to him about finances and joint planning. I'm happy to lend my mate money buy I'm not happy to pay his way when he is seemly spending at least 1k a month on God knows what. No holidays, no hobbies, no car, no dependants. I presume he has no idea I lend her money to buy food and petrol that he has the cash for and he benefits from.

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emuloc · Yesterday 09:49

I can't think what more I can do beyound telling her not to move until they have a shared joint pot of the entire moving costs as I know he will never cough that up. Its never going to happen.

You can say no to any request for money. It is as simple as that.

BlueJellycat · Yesterday 09:54

I think I'm going to have to from now in light of this new information. I'm going to have to say "have you asked x if has it?"

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Lobelia123 · Yesterday 09:57

emuloc · Yesterday 09:49

I can't think what more I can do beyound telling her not to move until they have a shared joint pot of the entire moving costs as I know he will never cough that up. Its never going to happen.

You can say no to any request for money. It is as simple as that.

One of those magical threads when the problem is solved with the first response. There's nothing to add here. Stop being a mug!

Larrythecatforpm · Yesterday 10:06

Just say “No, I can’t afford to lend anymore money, ask your partner.” Simple.

BlueJellycat · Yesterday 10:19

Lobelia123 · Yesterday 09:57

One of those magical threads when the problem is solved with the first response. There's nothing to add here. Stop being a mug!

I am still worried that she is either being financially abused. I do think it's likely she doesn't feel comfortable asking him to contribute more in which case that's on her.

But do I just say it's not my problem.if eg he is using her? Obviously I don't say that to her.

Do I say this is problem to approach her partner with or do I just so sorry not this month I can't afford it.

I always get the money back. So I was OK with that. Until I heard about this

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BlueJellycat · Yesterday 10:21

Larrythecatforpm · Yesterday 10:06

Just say “No, I can’t afford to lend anymore money, ask your partner.” Simple.

Ok thanks I this just nails it. Thank you.

It's a bit hard getting sucked into caring about her welfare I can't wood for the trees.

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SilverPink · Yesterday 10:51

You need to stop lending her money. If she can’t have an adult conversation with her partner about their finances then that’s on her quite frankly. Presumably she hasn’t bothered going down that route because you’re happy to keep lending her money which is just kicking the can further down the road.

Strawberrybananasmoothie · Yesterday 11:18

Stop sending her money. She’ll hopefully leave sooner if she doesn’t have your money to pretend that things are fine.

CarpetofBluebells · Yesterday 14:47

It's possible she's being financially abused. But you are not letting her see the bigger picture while you lend her money. As everyone has said stop lending her money.
If she asks be clear, she's in a relationship she needs to talk to him if she is short for essentials.

BlueJellycat · Yesterday 14:56

Thanks everyone. I can see I'm just enabling her to not have these conversations either him. I can't really belive she has got herself into this situation. But there must have been an initial conversation at some point where she said she would take on his rent and all the food costs. So it must have happened once, it can happen again. I haven't however made any such commitment.

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CarpetofBluebells · Yesterday 17:52

@BlueJellycat now you've seen the light will you stop lending her money?

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