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Can’t cope with tech and the endlessth checks and passwords. I’m 55 but feel 105!!!

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HeBeaverandSheBeaver · Yesterday 14:59

Trying to do some paperwork for a new job and it’s impossible. Download this app. My pc won’t accept the app. Try on my phone. Make an account. Change password. Try to open training doc. Enter password. Oops password not accepted. Try to change password. Now not being sent new link. This is toooooooo hard. No support as all remote. I hate tech I hate tech I hate tech.

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Monty36 · Yesterday 15:55

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 15:41

I’m a millennial so I was brought up with a bit of both. However, I was pretty much brought up with computers from the age of 16 so I was considered ‘computer literate’. However it’s gone from simply just being able to use technology and knowing how to work it… to now having to create accounts for everything and download apps. So it’s not that I don’t know what to do… it’s the constant having to piss about creating accounts, creating a password then having to create some other shit as a 2/ 3 step authentication method I think even the younger generation probably find all this infuriating so I’m not sure it’s about not being brought up around computers and not having a clue about using technology, but more to do with all the tons of extra shit we never used to have to put up with.

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Totally agree.

SilenceInside · Yesterday 15:56

@stillhiding1990 hopefully we can agree that it does indeed happen, and that whatever program you are using should be able to handle that without then denying access.

stillhiding1990 · Yesterday 15:57

SilenceInside · Yesterday 15:56

@stillhiding1990 hopefully we can agree that it does indeed happen, and that whatever program you are using should be able to handle that without then denying access.

Yes we can agree on that, I was jus providing the explanations for the points you raised against my posts :)

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 15:59
Eric Andre GIF

Omg two factor, three factor, one million factor authentication just to access my bills

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 16:07

SilenceInside · Yesterday 15:55

@Flyingintotheunknown if you're using email that's in a browser, like gmail, then you can just open another window or tab and open another instance of your email there to access the code.

No I use apps for all my emails. It’s easier that way than using a browser. Just the link I go on brings up a browser within the emails. You can’t minimise it or switch between the two. So you have to get rid of the page you spent ages inputting your details on.

THisbackwithavengeance · Yesterday 16:13

I miss the days when you got a quarterly bill in the post for the amount of water/electricity/gas that you had actually used and you paid it either by bank transfer or you sent a cheque. So easy. So transparent.

GloiredeDijon · Yesterday 16:13

If I hear the word "portal" I want to scream.
It's all become fucking ridiculous.

SilenceInside · Yesterday 16:14

@Flyingintotheunknown actually, I assumed you were on a desktop computer, but perhaps you are using a phone? I agree that using a browser that's embedded in the app you started with is less flexible and useable than accessing the link separately. Maybe next time you could copy the link from the email and open it in a browser rather than directly clicking on it. Sometimes emails have the link available to copy as well as a button or a clickable link.

SinceYouSaySo · Yesterday 16:14

I hate it all, too. I'm sure someone will introduce a "solution" like a chip in our brains, shortly, which will take all of this hassle away and make life so much more convenient.

SilenceInside · Yesterday 16:15

Anyway, I realise now that people want to discuss the issues, and I am being overly focussed on trying to discuss solutions....

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 16:17

SilenceInside · Yesterday 16:14

@Flyingintotheunknown actually, I assumed you were on a desktop computer, but perhaps you are using a phone? I agree that using a browser that's embedded in the app you started with is less flexible and useable than accessing the link separately. Maybe next time you could copy the link from the email and open it in a browser rather than directly clicking on it. Sometimes emails have the link available to copy as well as a button or a clickable link.

Yes from a phone not a desktop.
And yes that’s pretty much what I’ve had to do to solve to problems. The issue is, this doesn’t happen all the time. It depends what company you are creating the account with as to how the link opens. Most of the time it opens on a separate page in my browser. But the odd time the link opened within my inbox. And I don’t realise until I’ve already spent ages filling out the information and then realise I can’t get off the page to get back to my emails without getting rid of that page first

Obimumkinobi · Yesterday 16:24

Agree 💯. I'd happily have a chip inserted under my skin, like dogs, and have that scanned by anyone who needed to know it's me.
As PPs have said, you end up having to write all the important ones down, which seems self-defeating.

Ponderingwindow · Yesterday 16:27

I use a password manager. However that can fail.

i also use a formula for generating my passwords. Again. That doesn’t always work and you have to change them.

i keep a tiny book in my house with my hundreds of passwords organized alphabetically. If I get robbed, i will have to change all my passwords. I would have to do that anyway if someone came in and stole my devices.

when you feel overwhelmed by the instructions, either get a second screen to look at them on or print them out. It makes all the difference to not go back and forth.

mumumental · Yesterday 16:27

You could use a password manager?

mumumental · Yesterday 16:28

Or if you have an iPhone you can use passwords, or passkeys.

Ponderingwindow · Yesterday 16:29

Also, this is one of the few things AI is actually good for. It is great at helping with most mainstream tech.

SerendipityJane · Yesterday 16:30

This is what "AI" is for 😀

LarksAscending · Yesterday 16:37

stillhiding1990 · Yesterday 15:48

No, generally when I create an account it normally keeps you logged in, or failing that i log in with the password I just created?

Usually for a work log in the company will email you a password but upon entry you’re then required to change it to your own password. For security.

LarksAscending · Yesterday 16:38

mumumental · Yesterday 16:28

Or if you have an iPhone you can use passwords, or passkeys.

I do. Doesn’t work half the time.

LarksAscending · Yesterday 16:39

SilenceInside · Yesterday 16:15

Anyway, I realise now that people want to discuss the issues, and I am being overly focussed on trying to discuss solutions....

Yes we don’t want solutions. We can eventually figure it out ourselves after trying 20 things and wasting an hour. We just want to complain because it’s all so stupid.

peakygull · Yesterday 16:44

mumumental · Yesterday 16:28

Or if you have an iPhone you can use passwords, or passkeys.

I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve created a password with iPhone secure password feature and it doesn’t save it 🙄

Theresmagicwheretheflowersgrow · Yesterday 16:44

THisbackwithavengeance · Yesterday 16:13

I miss the days when you got a quarterly bill in the post for the amount of water/electricity/gas that you had actually used and you paid it either by bank transfer or you sent a cheque. So easy. So transparent.

And if there were any problems with the bill or supply, you could pop into the showroom/office and speak to a person about it.

SerendipityJane · Yesterday 16:44

It is an interesting fact that in a world allegedly obsessed with standards, there (still) isn't a standard for password complexity, or indeed how to implement consumer security.

Luckily this means that rather than having a uniform mechanism that would be consistent across everything, every web developer and coder has teh opportunity to make their own mark in the world.

If any government were serious about UK productivity, they'd have mandated something years ago. Could have saved countless person-millennia by now.

SerendipityJane · Yesterday 16:45

Theresmagicwheretheflowersgrow · Yesterday 16:44

And if there were any problems with the bill or supply, you could pop into the showroom/office and speak to a person about it.

Problem is we weren't willing to pay for that.

researchers3 · Yesterday 16:47

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · Yesterday 14:59

Trying to do some paperwork for a new job and it’s impossible. Download this app. My pc won’t accept the app. Try on my phone. Make an account. Change password. Try to open training doc. Enter password. Oops password not accepted. Try to change password. Now not being sent new link. This is toooooooo hard. No support as all remote. I hate tech I hate tech I hate tech.

Same. Hate it.

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