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Leo's farrier phobia is well on it's way to being cured!

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dooit · 30/01/2009 14:51

I had a thread a few weeks ago before we got "the tack room" about my young horse (Leo) and his terrible fear of the farrier.

We used IV sedation from the vet which obviously worked but aside from costing 100 quid a time it didn't actually address the problem.

We tried sedalin (a full 10ml tube) that had no effect what so ever.

I had the physio out to check there was no physical reason for him to react so violently (explosive double barrelled kicking) to my lovley farrier and no pain was detected.

The physio gave me the number of a natural horsemanship lady who she'd heard was rather good. Sally came out last Friday to do some ground work with Leo and found him to be very calm and receptive to her methods. She reinforced his backing up and moving over out of her space and having his legs handled etc. He was lovley and did everything asked of him.

Today the farrier was due..........so out came Sally again to find Leo was a snorting wreck, ready to kick out as soon as the farrier approached just to pat him.

She spent a good half hour doing the ground work again then got the farrier to do advance/retreat touching, where he would back off as soon as Leo stood calmly but stayed close if he panicked or paddied. He the did similar advance/retreat but holding his hind leg up with a rope. If he stood calm he was allowed to put it down and if he kicked or got upset it was held up til he settled.

The end result an hour later was Leo standing as quiet as a mouse while his back shoes were removed. No one was injured, horse or human and the job was done.

Even the farrier, lovely but very much old school, was impressed. I don't think he expected it to work to be honest.

So we'll have another session or two for the next shoeings but I'm just delighted that things went so well and we are well on the way to helping him overcome his fears.

Sorry for the essay. I just had to share.

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mysterymoniker · 30/01/2009 14:53

ahh that's amazing news

well done leo and sally! will it be onwards and upwards now do you think?

dooit · 30/01/2009 16:04

Sally trained here in Australia and their methods, whilst similar to Monty Roberts and Parelli seem to make more sense to me and they certainly do to Leo.

We have homework to be going on with and she's also a BHSAI so she'll be giving DD lessons as of tomorrow.

I feel like we've all clicked and we have a brilliant team now. Bring it on.

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mysterymoniker · 30/01/2009 16:07

does she make clipping without sedation possible too, do you think? is that leo in your pics?

KingCanuteIAm · 30/01/2009 16:08

Oh well done! That is such good news! Well done Leo - and your farrier (I have known many who would never spend that length of time, they would rather you sedate and they can get out of here!)

dooit · 30/01/2009 16:38

I know KK. When I told the farrier my plan to use Sally he didn't say much but i got the impression he was rolling his eyes down the phone at me . He will have to call himself a natural horsemanship farrier from now on. He really took on board what she was saying and the results spoke for themselves. Just shows, you really can teach an old dog new tricks. I'm sure he'll be putting her methods to use on some of his less co-operative customers.(He did say that Leo was the least co-operative he'd come across for a very long time )

MM- the physio who told me about Sally had heard of her from a client who used her to clip a previously un-clipable horse, so yes!

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dooit · 30/01/2009 16:40

Yes that's Leo when we first went to see him in the pics, back in September. He's done a whole lot of growing and filling out since then. I'll update the pics one day when we get a bit of sunshine.

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mysterymoniker · 30/01/2009 16:52

I want a Sally of my own - not in East Anglia by any chance are you?

snoringnightmare · 30/01/2009 16:53

That is great news. Sally sounds like a great person to have found.

My farrier is very old school as well and I can just imagine the eye-rolling. Mind you I think mine would also call me a loony old bat. Great that yours took it all on board.

dooit · 01/02/2009 16:46

Sorry MM. She's a Yorkshire lass.

We've had another break through. DD had a lesson with Sally yesterday. As I posted on another thread, Leo has a tendency to switch off in the school. DDs previous instructor didn't seem concerned by this and was happy for him to potter round in a lazy fashion and forward motion was distinctly hard work for DD.

Sally had a different approach and by the end of the lesson the two of them were tripping the light fantastic round the school. Him doing his fab big secion D trot and DD loving every minute of it.

I heart Sally

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KingCanuteIAm · 01/02/2009 20:46

Are you in Yorkshire Dooit?

She does sound great, I am glad that she has got Leo to up his game in the school too, no wonder you heart her!

dooit · 01/02/2009 21:50

Yes, I'm in West Yorks KingCanute

It was lovley to see the two of them really having fun in the school. He's always very willing and forward going to hack out and he's grown into a very substantial young man but he'd very quickly got into the mindset of doing as little as possible in the school so to see him with DD (all of 4ft 11in) doing his huge power trot but totally in tune with each other put a huge lump in my throat. I was very proud of my big boy and girl.

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KingCanuteIAm · 01/02/2009 22:33

I am not surprised! I can feel your pride!

Loshad · 02/02/2009 10:32

great stuff Dooit - does Sally have a dd who events and her yard is near the bottom of a big hill?

dooit · 02/02/2009 12:02

No, different Sally. This one doesn't have a DD or her own yard.

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