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What would you do?

24 replies

PuzzledPonyLover · 16/04/2026 15:35

What would you do if a professional you have used for decades and are fond of behaved as follows. This is someone normally kind with a nice quiet way with horses.

Walks onto yard, opens stable of new youngster. Starts to treat him but the minute he misbehaves, takes him to the furthest corner of the stable, where he presumes you cannot see, and wallops him three times with the lead rope.
This is a sensitive young horse who is reactive so the appointment spirals downwards.
When nearly finished it becomes impossible so I say we can leave it there. He asks if he can fall out with the horse and I say no.
He says he has to finish so shouts and hits the horse until he submits.
I am now wondering whether to book the follow up appointment. As I say, this is uncharacteristic behaviour but not acceptable on my yard.

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LostThestral · 16/04/2026 15:40

They would have finished their appointment the minute they hit him with the lead rope & i'd be asking for my money back.

He also would absolutely not be hitting a horse in my care until it submitted!

sesquipedalian · 16/04/2026 15:44

OP, I would have asked him what on earth he thought he was playing at, and why he thought it was OK to treat a horse in that manner. I absolutely wouldn’t be booking him for further appointments if I could help it.

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 16/04/2026 16:13

I would have dragged him away from the horse by his hair.

maxelly · 16/04/2026 16:25

Jeez. That's not someone I'd ever have near any horse of mine ever again, that's for sure. Even if his methods were totally acceptable (which of course they're not), you asked him to stop, told him he couldn't carry on (which as the horses owner/yard manager you are 100% entitled to do even if all he wanted him to do was give the horse a stroke never mind belt it with a lead rope), and he just went ahead anyway? Outrageous behaviour. I can't believe you're thinking of booking a follow up. How could you possibly trust him again after this?

God knows what's going on with him and in his life to cause this uncharacteristic behaviour but your first responsibility is to your horses, and TBH I'd be wondering if there's any way of protecting other people's horses too, is he registered or accredited with a professional body, can you report him? Would the RSPCA or BHS be able to advise (probably not but worth a try). If he's someone you are close to perhaps you owe him the courtesy of telling him why you are so concerned and letting him explain why/why it won't happen again, but for me even if he has a perfectly good explanation (having some kind of breakdown perhaps) the trust would be gone and I couldn't have him back...

PuzzledPonyLover · 16/04/2026 17:02

I know the personal circumstances and why he is not himself at the moment. This is someone I have used for 34 years without issue so I don’t intend to report him.

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britnay · 16/04/2026 18:39

I'm not sure what personal circumstances could excuse abusing an animal?

tinyspiny · 16/04/2026 18:53

PuzzledPonyLover · 16/04/2026 17:02

I know the personal circumstances and why he is not himself at the moment. This is someone I have used for 34 years without issue so I don’t intend to report him.

There are no personal circumstances that justify ill treating an animal , as soon as he hit my horse the first time he would have been out , even if it meant me dragging him out . Despicable behaviour .

Sleepyheads123 · 16/04/2026 19:21

I would definitely report him to his governing body and he would never go near a horse of mine again!

FeelingSadToday1 · 16/04/2026 19:31

Agree that there are no circumstances that would ever excuse that behaviour. He should have rescheduled if he was feeling aggressive. I could not allow him to work with my horses again, ever.

You sound like you are making excuses for him and will use him again. Completely your call if you can live with yourself but it would be the end of the relationship for me.

PuzzledPonyLover · 16/04/2026 20:47

I am not excusing it, as I said in my OP, it is not acceptable at my yard.

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CrotchetyQuaver · 16/04/2026 21:13

I think I would have a full and frank discussion with him, depending on how that goes let him come back but ... if he starts any funny business he'd be off the yard straight away and never returning. It's not the horses fault he's having a difficult time of it at the moment so he shouldn't be taking it out on them ...

SilenceInside · 16/04/2026 21:20

But you did accept it. You didn’t intervene the moment the mistreatment happened, and then it continued. Of course you shouldn’t book another appointment with him.

Ineedanewsofa · 16/04/2026 21:26

I’m afraid the conversation goes “what the fuck do you think you are doing? Get off my property!”
If it’s your own horse it’s bad enough but if you are a yard owner entrusted with (and charging for!) the care of other people’s horses then an abuse incident is the potential end of your business.
FAAFO as they say…

SirChenjins · 16/04/2026 21:35

You let him continue to physically attack an animal. It's your responsibility to look after the horses in your care and protect them - I'm shocked that you are even having to ask what you should have done.

Are you the owner of this horse? If not, does the owner know what he did and you enabled?

Zapx · 16/04/2026 21:37

So you let him carry on abusing your horse, which you think is unacceptable, but you’re debating having him back?

Arlanymor · 16/04/2026 21:39

I am now wondering whether to book the follow up appointment.

Why? I don't have a horse, know very little about them. But I know that beating them is not right. I honestly don't know why you even have to ask this question.

PuzzledPonyLover · 17/04/2026 08:03

My horse on my private yard, no horses not owned by me allowed there. I am under 5 foot but in hindsight regret not standing up to him.

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FeelingSadToday1 · 17/04/2026 08:07

I can understand if you didn’t feel able to stand up to him at the time but then your thread should have read that you will be reporting him and never using him again.

Think of the mental damage (and possible physical) he has done to your you poor young horse.

Perfect28 · 17/04/2026 08:08

Gross

SirChenjins · 17/04/2026 08:49

You stood and watched him do that to your young horse, did/said nothing, and are questioning whether you should bring him back?

Words fail me. If anyone did anything like that to my animals I'd absolutely go for them - and fwiw, I'm five foot 1. Come on.

ScottBakula · 17/04/2026 10:08

I worked on a yard for many years on one occasion a Blacksmith that we'd used for many years grabbed a 2 Yr olds ear and whacked it on the arse with his rasp.
He was booted off the yard right away ( didn't finish trimming the horses hooves ) and word was spread to all of the other local yards to not let him on their property.

This is what you should be doing @PuzzledPonyLover .

Indianajet · 17/04/2026 10:13

We're you afraid of him? You mention being under 5ft - I am 5ft, but that wouldn't stop me interfering if an animal was being abused.

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 17/04/2026 10:20

Are you fucking kidding me??? He abuses a youngster and you just let him? There is NEVER an excuse for abusing animals.

There was a farrier who I heard had been a bit rough with my horse, however my gorgeous ginger mare got to him before I did and burst his nose. Saved me a job.

ScottBakula · 17/04/2026 11:49

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 17/04/2026 10:20

Are you fucking kidding me??? He abuses a youngster and you just let him? There is NEVER an excuse for abusing animals.

There was a farrier who I heard had been a bit rough with my horse, however my gorgeous ginger mare got to him before I did and burst his nose. Saved me a job.

Well done that horse ! 😄

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