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Best way to find good livery yard?

19 replies

Newhorse · 03/01/2025 11:01

I’m a first time horse owner and would ultimately like to keep my horse at home but don’t feel I’ll have enough experience for a couple of years at least.

How did you find a livery yard you’re happy with?

My ideal would be all year turnout, stabling at night in winter, living as small herd, arena, great hacking from the yard, pleasant liveries with no drama :)

And is home always better if you have the appropriate facilities and experience?

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MadameHomais · 03/01/2025 11:11

Personal recommendation is always best for me.
Ask around your area.
Do you have a local horsey group on social media?
Or ask the local professionals you use - vet, farrier etc.
Good luck

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 03/01/2025 11:35

Word of mouth. Speak to anyone you can, visit lots, a bad livery can be a horrible experience

FluffMagnet · 03/01/2025 11:38

Depending where you are in the country, you may or may not be able to find a livery that works for your (very sensible) requirements. For instance, on areas where properties are expensive, and the ground is clay, liveries are likely to be rammed in and turnout restricted so the fields aren't entirely trashed for summer. Also, I found around early 2000s, the big trend for individual turnout caused a lot of issues with restrictions (Vs 90s where it always seemed to be mares in one massive field and geldings in another, and there they stayed year round because they had 20+ acres each group so only the gateways became poached).

I would strongly advise staying with livery until you feel comfortable dealing with a) horse emergencies, and b) land issues, and have some like-minded friends to call upon in the local area. I try to stay friendly but slightly aloof in yards as I cannot be dealing with the drama and cliques, but the hive mind is invaluable for the many hiccups you'll have along the way, especially when starting out with a new horse. What is your plan in terms of company for your horse when you move him/her home?

lastqueenofscotlandagain · 03/01/2025 13:53

Word of mouth, the local equestrian Facebook groups can be good if you can deal with the "would you consider our yard in county Mayo" when you're looking in Devon comments.

ipredictariot5 · 03/01/2025 14:01

Consider full livery. Takes a lot of the day to day drama away however you won’t get as much experience looking after your own. Livery turnover and staff turnover always a good indication of a happy well run yard
find a yard without enough rules that it’s safe and well run but not so many that it’s oppressive. And work out where your compromises are- I wanted herd turnout all year and for that I compromised on lots of hacking. Also don’t be committed to buy the horse until you’ve found a yard you are happy with

HelinaHandbasket · 03/01/2025 15:36

I’ve recently got my first horse, and keep him on livery. Like you, I don’t feel I have the knowledge to do anything else. I’m fortunate that that riding school where I’ve ridden for many years is also a livery stables, so I keep him there, and they’re incredibly supportive.

However, before I knew for sure I could keep him in his current yard, I thought about my must haves and my good to haves in any yard, and did this before I started horse shopping. I checked local liveries online, and joined a couple of FB groups about liveries in the local area. I found these groups in particular were a good source of information.

Once you’ve found some possible yards, I suggest visiting and seeing if you feel comfortable there. It’s important to find somewhere you can relax and enjoy your horse, as well as somewhere that has what you want for them in terms of turnout/hacking/arena etc.

BobaCob · 03/01/2025 16:05

What are your facilities at home? You ask if home is better than livery once you know how to care for your horse but don’t say if you have land/stables/hacking.

britnay · 03/01/2025 19:01

Keeping them at home is a lot of work. Maintaining land is time consuming and expensive. Plus, you'll need at least one other horse as a companion.

Autumn1990 · 03/01/2025 19:25

If you’ve got the land keep it at home. It’s so much easier. It is better if there’s someone else at home who will look after the horse if you’re not there for any reason but if there isn’t there are plenty of mobile grooms.
Most emergencies involve the out of hours vet so I wouldn’t worry about that.
Ideally a companion is needed but it should be easy to find one to loan. My last horse had a sheep as her companion.

lastqueenofscotlandagain · 03/01/2025 20:21

I really really wouldn't encourage a first time owner to keep a horse at home. It's very easy to cause low level neglect not spotting lameness or other pain related issues or inappropriate feed/rugging etc etc, land management is a chore and pricey.
They do need companions and often you end up needing three as pairs can get very attached and they can be hard to separate which is a nightmare if you want to ride. Not every horse will take to a sheep/goat companion, and there are plenty of horses that kill sheep

Floralnomad · 03/01/2025 20:30

Word of mouth is the best way and then viewing at different times of the day . When the horse moves in to the chosen place turn up at odd times , it’s amazing what you discover . WRT keeping them at home it’s hard work and you need at least 3 , unless you don’t ever want to ride or have found some wonder horse that is antisocial .

StrikeForever · 03/01/2025 20:38

Good luck finding a yard with “pleasent liveries with no drama”. I have been out of the horse world for 16-years now, but prior to that, over many years, I’d been on a number of yards. In my experience, a lack of drama (either from other liveries, or the yard owners) is rare indeed. Many people in horses show the worst characteristics of the playground (the tales I could tell 😂).

Good luck 🙂

Autumn1990 · 03/01/2025 20:46

I don’t understand why everyone thinks keeping a horse at home is hard work. The area I live in 90-95% of owners keep horses at home or solely rent a couple of stables and a few acres. Most horses have to share grazing with sheep or cattle.
Land management isn’t hard. It’s occasionally mending fences, regularly picking the poo and maybe having it sprayed or topped in the summer, hedges cut during winter. There are plenty of men who’ll do this fairly cheaply locally. My land management costs are about £100 per year per acre max.

lastqueenofscotlandagain · 03/01/2025 21:14

I didn't say hard work I said not appropriate for a novice and not knowing how to manage land/spot lameness etc can lead to low level neglect quite easily

Newhorse · 04/01/2025 09:00

We have a couple of paddocks totalling 3-4 acres, water, and a (currently) disused stone stable as the previous homeowner kept horses. I know I don’t yet have the knowledge or experience to keep a horse at home and won’t have for at least 2 or 3 years.

The fencing and stabling would need upgrading and the paddocks are currently just cut a couple of times a year and are quite weedy but no ragwort.

My bedtime reading is currently ‘Equine Lameness for the Layman’ (!) and I spend quite a lot of time around horses (at a livery yard which won’t be suitable for various reasons) so am doing my best to learn as much as I can.

In the meantime I’ll try to tactfully ask around and may even have to join Facebook!

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Newhorse · 04/01/2025 09:05

And I’m not sure about companions yet- a companion non-ridden horse? Or sheep? I also know someone who swears by Pygmy goats for company! I would love to adopt a rescue donkey in the future but I’ve heard that horses are often scared of them :/

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Sprig1 · 04/01/2025 09:12

It needs to be another horse. Other species won't cut it. You also need to find one that is happy to be left on its own while you ride. That's not straightforward. You might end up needing a companion for the companion!

BobaCob · 04/01/2025 18:05

One option is to offer a diy livery space so your own has company. Whilst being on a yard can mean you get advice it can also mean everyone pitches in with conflicting thoughts.
It would be a good idea to have regular lessons on your own horse. That would need to be hackable unless you plan on getting transport. A good instructor that you pay for a weekly lesson would normally be happy answer any questions that crop up on the horse care side of things.
I would personally stick to sharing others horses until you feel confident having one at home. If you have the land it is so much nicer to have them outside the window. Makes them feel much more like pets and part of the family.

backinthebox · 04/01/2025 22:23

@Autumn1990 “I don’t understand why everyone thinks keeping a horse at home is hard work.” 😂😂😂

Well, this week I have:

  • repaired fencing where the pony decided he liked the look of the grass I’m trying to keep for summer.
  • rolled a new bale of hay into the dry standing area for them to eat during turnout periods.
  • topped up the IBC for emergency water supplies when the taps freeze.
  • repaired a leaking auto-drinker.
  • cut down a decaying branch that was overhanging the stable roof, I did not want it to fall on the stables in high winds.
  • ordered more hay and bedding for delivery.
  • harrowed the school.
  • done a bit of muck heap maintenance.

This is as well as daily mucking out, making and giving feeds, turnout and bring in, before I get the opportunity to ride. I don’t poo pick, I rotate and harrow. Both are work intensive options.

Don’t get me wrong, I love having my horses at home, I have 3 of them at home and one turned away for the winter as he was trashing the ground and is out of work atm. I would not be able to afford 4 horses on livery. But I am under no illusions that it is not hard work. Over the coming months I will be beginning to install a track so that my ground is not trashed so much in the winter, and my stable block needs replacing as it is old and coming to the end of it’s life - I spend more time maintaining it than I should. I will need to harrow the ruts out of the winter fields, and overseed the poached areas with a repair seed mix, maintaining a paddock rotation and maintenance plan as I only have 5 acres and it’s not enough for the horses I have unless I work at it. Cut the hedges, dredge the ditches (I have several hundred metres of both ditch and hedge) pull ragwort, cut back overhanging trees, spread rotted manure back on the fields or fertilise, paint the stables with preservative, repair the endless little bits horses damage simply because they are half ton animals.

I am responsible for taking delivery of the hay and feeds and bedding, being there for the vet and farrier, keeping to a worming program. There is no one else here to remind me or to offer advice, the only back up I have is that which I organise myself so if I want to go away for a night I need to find my own help, none provided by the yard owner.

A novice horse owner keeping their own horse at home would need to know what colic looks like, or laminitis, what to do if a horse gets cast, do you call the vet or the farrier when the horse comes in on 3 legs, the merits of washing legs vs brushing them clean when dry, why you wouldn’t turn out on frosty grass, which plants are poisonous, what hard feeds would be suitable for their horse. They would need to have an address book with a good saddler, farrier, physio, dentist, hay merchant, vet and emergency groom in it. You get all of these things through experience and years under your belt, often with your first years on a livery yard with help and more experienced owners to bounce ideas and questions off. I had horses at home for the first 12 years of horse ownership, but I was a child and we had the support of some very knowledgable friends. We were clueless and lucky. As an adult, I did not keep a horse at home until I was in my mid 30s. The years I spent in livery yards were both frustrating and the source of my basic knowledge and also the place I made long standing friendships, including my best friend. I would not recommend any novice to keep their first horse at home. Even an old friend who is from a billionaire family kept her first horse at livery while she learned.

@Newhorse My advice would be to look at several yards close to home, find a one you like and ask if they have a vacancy or waiting list. Make sure you have a space before you buy a horse. DIY is fine, but try to get the things you want like small herd turnout. Make sure the yard has someone on hand who you can call to help in an emergency, and who can do ‘extras’ such as stables, feeding and bringing in if you want a day off or a holiday. In the meantime get to know your own land well - is it wet, dry or a mix? Where is good for your muck heap? Build your experience and when you feel confident you can manage anything a horse throws at you, that’s when you are ready to bring it home. You will need a companion horse or pony. A goat or donkey doesn’t provide the same friendship. My horses groom each other and play together, even a little herd is better than a single horse on their own. They take it in turns to keep watch while another sleeps. A goat isn’t going to give them that feeling of security.

Good luck, it’s a hugely rewarding thing to own your own horse, and even more rewarding to have them at home. But it’s something you build up to. You would not be daft to join your local Facebook county horse group - there is usually a lot of useful information among the adverts for old numnahs!

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