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Horse breed ID

27 replies

TeacherHarri · 02/04/2024 01:19

Have posted in chat, but was then told about this more relevant forum.

Had this gorgeous horse as a kid. Well, I actually had her until I was 21. She was mostly white, unless she was covered in mud, which was most of the time (we’d brush her and then she’d immediately go and roll). She was quite temperamental and not good to ride unfortunately (she would end up throwing riders off), she was loving but independent. I think she was pregnant in this photo, she had a foal born brown but turned white.
I would love to know what breed she was of any. I wasn’t told as a youngster and to be honest, never asked. We had two horses and 3 pony’s and that’s all I knew.
I found the photo whilst organising some papers today and have been reminiscing.
What do you think?

Horse breed ID
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TeacherHarri · 02/04/2024 01:21

She looks quite small in the photo, but I think that’s because her tummy is rounder. I think she was a little over 14 hands?

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NoraLuka · 02/04/2024 01:36

I’m not an expert at all but her head looks kind of Arab but not completely, so I would say Arab x something else. She was beautiful anyway!

LighthouseTheme · 02/04/2024 01:39

Arab?
Welsh?
Connemara?

She's lovely x

Maverickess · 02/04/2024 01:46

She's quite similar to a pony (different colour though) I knew years ago who was Arab x Welsh about 13.2hh, not an easy ride but lots of fun for a brave experienced rider!
So I agree there may be some Arab/Welsh influence there.

Gorgeous pony

TeacherHarri · 02/04/2024 01:47

NoraLuka · 02/04/2024 01:36

I’m not an expert at all but her head looks kind of Arab but not completely, so I would say Arab x something else. She was beautiful anyway!

Thanks all, she’s long gone sadly. It’s lovely thinking about her this evening. I’ll be doing my research into those breeds ❤️

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EatCrow · 02/04/2024 01:48

She was a beautiful horse ❤️

TeacherHarri · 02/04/2024 01:50

EatCrow · 02/04/2024 01:48

She was a beautiful horse ❤️

Thank you. I wish I had a photo of her all lovely and clean! You should have seen her then. She was gorgeous. Miss her loads 😢

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TeacherHarri · 02/04/2024 01:52

Ooh! She does look like an Arab x Welsh!

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Pinkbonbon · 02/04/2024 01:54

Face looks Arabian that's for sure.
Little Cutie.

Mooove · 02/04/2024 01:55

I thought Arab x at first but actually I’d say Connemara is a good bet. The head doesn’t look as dished as I first thought and she seems a good doer with a coarse mane and tail - not wispy.

my childhood friend had a Connie - with the pink nose and darker mane. I had a thoroughbred pony, also grey but much flimsier in every respect. He was born a twin, and as a result only ever made 14.1hh.

Mooove · 02/04/2024 01:56

tail carriage is telling for the Arab factor… any more photos? :)

TeacherHarri · 02/04/2024 01:59

Mooove · 02/04/2024 01:56

tail carriage is telling for the Arab factor… any more photos? :)

No, it’s the only one I have. I didn’t even realise I had this. I thought they’d all be lost.

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TeacherHarri · 02/04/2024 02:02

I will add that she looks a little chunky in this photo. Not sure if it’s the angle or the fact she was pregnant. To see her normally, she was less rounded 😂

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CatrionaCat · 02/04/2024 02:36

The dark foal which turned white makes me think of Camargue horses. It may happen in other breeds; I don't know.

BC2603 · 02/04/2024 07:20

I own 2 Part Bred Arabs and have worked with pure breds and there’s definitely Arab in there. You don’t have to have a dish in the face that’s hugely pronounced (different ‘types’ have varying degrees) but the jawline to the muzzle and body shape (and height you specify) sounds like and Arab x

Arabian babies also can start life dark and then go grey

Pleasedontdothat · 02/04/2024 07:54

She looks lovely - and very much like a part bred Arab. Grey horses start out dark and then grey out as they get older. PBAs were more common a few years ago - they’ve fallen out of fashion recently but they can be gorgeous.

Newuser75 · 02/04/2024 07:59

I would say Arab or Welsh or a mixture of both. Gorgeous horse!

HorseAreBetterThanHumans · 02/04/2024 08:01

She looks just like our Arab x Welsh, in fact I looked twice to check it wasn't him!

CultOfTheAirFryer · 02/04/2024 08:03

Native pony x Arab - probably Welsh but could be Connemara.

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 02/04/2024 08:13

I’d guess Arab x Welsh B.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 02/04/2024 08:47

CatrionaCat · 02/04/2024 02:36

The dark foal which turned white makes me think of Camargue horses. It may happen in other breeds; I don't know.

All grey horses start a different colour and gradually grey out.

Grey isn't a colour gene, it is a gene that causes horses of any colour to lose the pigment in their skin.

All horses are bay, black or chestnut base colour with other genes modifying the base, such as grey, dun, cream, tobiano, overo, sabino etc.

TeacherHarri · 02/04/2024 09:06

Thanks all! I think the closest I’ve seen looking at pictures online is the Arab x Welsh. Although some pictures I’ve seen show that particular mix as being a bit more stocky looking than mine was. The Connemara looks more ‘hairy’ if that makes sense, especially around the chin, when our girl wasn’t hairy at all and her fur when brushed was quite short and thin. So perhaps she had a bit more Arab in her? Or perhaps these are typical traits of the Welsh pony? All research I’ll be doing today.

She loved to run and we had a 7 acre field which she would zip around for no reason at all. If you called her from the house she’d coming flying across the field to you 🥰
She was really smart.

The period we had her was 1982 - 2001. Which fits with the time it was fashionable to have part Arab in your horse?

Either way, it doesn’t really matter. It’s just interesting.

She was sent away for breeding and then we had her back and she was pregnant. She had a female foal.

We also had a few pony’s, which were more docile and easy to ride. Chunky, fluffy things, seemed to have a lot more hair whisps, in chestnut and a rusty colour. Probably about 12-13 hands. They preferred to graze and you’d never see them galloping the lazy things.

And finally we had a Shetland. A tiny horse, but as vicious as they come. Bit me more than once and broke skin. I was terrified of him and I was double his height at around 8 😂

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Maverickess · 02/04/2024 12:18

Good luck with your research, it is interesting, Arab x ponies were certainly very popular when I was younger, despite their reputation for being a bit 'hot' and looking delicate, they're really quite hardy, being bred to withstand the high daytime temperatures and then low night temperatures of the desert and their stamina is amazing.

This bit made me laugh though -

And finally we had a Shetland. A tiny horse, but as vicious as they come. Bit me more than once and broke skin. I was terrified of him and I was double his height at around 8 😂

Because they're small and cute people tend to think they're sweet and ideal children's ponies, they really aren't 🤣 they're fiercely independent (hello Houdini Shetlands) and like to do things their own way, and if you try and get between them and their goal, well more fool you 🤣. They're incredibly strong, intelligent and self opinionated.

That said I have found they are the best teachers though because they won't put up with any crap, treat them badly and you'll know all about it! My DD used to ride and look after one (well obviously under supervision) and he taught her so much about how to treat a horse with respect, you really do have to earn their respect because they will not tolerate anything else, and sometimes even then they're little sods.
He put me on my arse more than once as well, and the riding stables I worked at as a teen had a retired Shetland that roamed the yard and terrorised everyone and everything in sight, he was the absolute boss and even the big horses, the goats and the geese backed off when he told them to.
They also teach you how to be quick and read when you're about to get nipped or booted, or knee dropped out of the way 🤣.

I loved the one we had time with though, such a character and so clever and resourceful, he used to stand under the horse I looked after at the time for shelter or under the haynet and actually pull the hay out of the bigger horses mouth as they were eating 🤷🏼‍♀️🤣.

TeacherHarri · 02/04/2024 12:51

@Maverickess

Haha! That’s so funny and sweet about your Shetland. As a child I just didn’t get it.

I remember one day that Tom Thumb (that was his name) was grazing next to the fence.
I kneeled down beside him and put my head onto his back. That’s how small he was. I could as a kid, kneel and still had to lean over him to rest my head on him. Well, the next thing I knew, I thought he’d taken a chunk out of my right butt cheek. It hurt so bad 😂 I couldn’t sit on it for about a week.

We had some lovely horses growing up. I would love one now, but no longer have the space, money or time. I treat myself to horse riding and trail riding on holiday now.

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TeacherHarri · 04/04/2024 18:32

Just a sweet update.

I found another photo of my horses/ponys.

On the right is my vicious shetland. Then there’s my white/grey (assumed) Arab mix, then my white pony, not sure what breed and then there’s my Arab mix girl’s foal, who was born brown and eventually turned the same colour as her mum. 🥰

I so miss having them. We had another pony who was a chestnut colour, but he clearly didn’t want to be in the picture.

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