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Buying toddler Shetland or something to last longer ?

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Gmaes · 19/01/2024 12:24

Second post in a day can tell I’m struggling with any and all decisions šŸ˜‚ Potentially looking to buy a horse in the near future, I have a preference towards buying something at the top end of pony height like a Connie or welsh D, so me and my daughter can share from day one and I much prefer the idea of buying something we will have and have purpose for forever. However she is three, does anyone have any toddlers that ride bigger ponies, some are saying I should get her a Shetland or something smaller as she may struggle. My budget is healthy so I’d be looking to get something super safe either way and would keep it at a tidings school most likely so could potentially loan a smaller pony. Any advice or personal experience would help, I often see little ones on bigger ponies but not sure if she’d struggle more than I realise

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Vettrianofan · 20/01/2024 20:48

Please don't buy Shetland. It belongs where it is in Scotland.

Gmaes · 21/01/2024 09:43

You have quite clearly neglected the fact then that I am asking this question as whatever I buy I would not ever sell hence my dilemma, but sure find an issue where there isn’t one :)

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Gmaes · 21/01/2024 09:48

Thanks that’s an interesting perspective ! She looks so sweet up there !

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Floralnomad · 21/01/2024 11:45

I saw a video on FB yesterday of a 5 yr old child jumping a 2’6ā€ course on a draft x , her feet came just under the saddle flaps .

liveforsummer · 21/01/2024 20:02

BetteDavisChin · 20/01/2024 18:58

I'm concerned that in your posts you keep referring to 'getting something' and 'something suitable'.

No horse, (nor any other animal) should ever be thought of simply as a 'thing', like an item that can be bought and sold.

Oh shush. How else would you even word that?! You'd hate me, I call mine 'it' when 'it's' being a menace šŸ˜…

Balloonhearts · 22/01/2024 09:34

I think it depends on the pony tbh. I let a petite 7 year old ride my share horse, he is nearly 17hh but very sweet natured and looks after her well.

Some of the others I'd not even let her in the stable with.

backinthebox · 25/01/2024 12:24

Whichever direction you go in, I would not be buying a Connie or a Welsh D with the idea that my 3 yo could share it! They are big powerful ponies usually with quite opinionated personalities (which is what makes them appealing for adults on ponies, but makes them problematic for children.)

I have a saintly Welsh D who does the bare minimum for his rider - he would not scare the parent of a small child but he takes a bit of effort for even a very capable rider to get going because he is quite lazy and stubborn and would quite easily catapult a smaller rider over his ears given half a chance when he sticks his head down for a sneaky mouthful of grass. There is not a cat in hell’s chance a little rider could either get him going or stop the snacking. By contrast, the more forward going types would probably traumatise a parent simply because their flamboyant forward movement can take quite a bit of containing, again impossible for a 3 year old and once a Welsh D actually gets going there is no way a person on foot would be able to catch up to help a toddler stop it!

Connies can be sharp and clever, they are fab ponies but when I was looking for a larger pony/small horse for my daughter to step up onto the ones we looked at were generally too much pony even for a 12 yo to manage well. The few quieter and calmer ones I have seen have all been much too small for an adult to comfortably ride. I have friends who event their Connies at BE100 level and know several people who compete their Connies (and Welsh Ds) up to international level in TREC.

By all means look around, but if you want your child to be able to handle and ride a pony well, it will not be the same pony or horse you buy for yourself. I have a 15.2hh Connie cross, who I have owned since my DS was a baby, and who he has known his entire life, and at nearly 14 I think DS is almost strong and capable enough to ride him now, under careful supervision. He has been on the saintly Welsh D for the last 4 years, and before that on a 11.2hh Welsh A.

I see many children overhorsed and put off early on in their lives, especially when a parent buys them ā€˜something they can grow into/learn together with.’ It’s a sad fact, but in order to really learn to ride, a child needs a pony of the appropriate size and degree of forwardness for their age and size, which will obviously change as they get older and more capable. They also benefit from riding a range of different ponies whenever they can, as not all ponies behave exactly the same and you need to equip a young rider with skills to manage different pony habits if you want them to become a good rider. It is not possible, no matter how much you think you want to offer a pony a home for life, to keep both child and pony happy if you try to buy one pony for a 3 year old and hope this pony will last them for the rest of the pony’s life. What is suitable for a toddler will be boring for a 10 year old, and not refined enough for a 15 year old. What is suitable for a 15 year old will be far too much and in the region of possibly dangerous for a toddler. This is before you consider how frustrating it will be for the pony to have to tolerate a child that is not suited to it any more.

Best thing is to buy a horse or pony for yourself that you could realistically lead the toddler around on for the odd ride, but eventually take rides on at the riding school if there are loan opportunities there. It will be a much better way of getting your toddler riding on something a suitable size without putting you in the position of having to consider selling an outgrown pony if that is how you feel.

notquiteruralbliss · 30/01/2024 11:57

For very little ones who are just doing lead rein hacks in walk size doesn't matter as much as attitude. My DCs used to 'ride' my semi retired show hunter mare in walk often 2 of them at a time bareback. When they wanted to do more they graduated to a 13:2 pony (who happily carried each of them from 4 until about 12) and then moved onto one or other of our horses. More recently DGC has done lead rein on a very tolerant 17h SJ, as she was what we had available for him to 'ride'.

MissCordeliaPreston · 30/01/2024 12:50

My kids rode riding school ponies, a large variety of them, and got to quite a competent level before I got them their own pony. Coincidentally, by then, they were also big enough that I get them a pony I can also ride. Win win. Lots of great advice here but I'll add my voice to those saying that if you want a pony get one for you. Toddler will grow into it (or not, if they decide to stop riding) and there's nothing to stop toddler from spending time with your pony looking after it or even having some time on it on a lead rein.

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