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Should you always wear a body protector?

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bravelittletiger · 25/10/2022 09:57

I don't currently have one (only ride once a week) but I was wondering if I should buy one- what are peoples views on how necessary/useful they are?

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Pleasedontdothat · 25/10/2022 10:12

My dd is a full time rider and only wears one for XC - she says it changes her position slightly and when she was younger/less experienced she was more likely to fall off when she was wearing one than not.

Having said that I’m currently recovering from a freak riding accident - it’s possible wearing a body protector would have meant my injuries would have been less severe so it’s something I’m mulling over for when I start riding again

maxelly · 25/10/2022 11:32

It's a bit of a grey area for me, certainly not as straight-forward as wear a body protector and you won't be hurt in a fall (or don't wear one and you will), you need to do your own risk assessment really and it's a tricky one because the absolute risk (how likely you are to be seriously injured in a riding fall) is very low, there are very few fatal or very serious injuries in riders every year, riding is overall a safe activity, but the relative risk (how likely you are to be seriously injured riding compared to sitting at home watching TV) is high, on this metric riding is very risky indeed - then you need to look at how likely a body protector is to reduce this risk and here it gets more complex as you also need to define for yourself what a serious injury actually is, body protectors do little to protect the most common kinds of injury e.g. bruised, sprained or broken limbs, concussions but do quite a lot for some of the more serious types of injuries that affect the torso and major organs. But you do then need to consider other factors too such as type of activity (fast riding in open outdoor spaces and XC the most dangerous, going around a school in walk and trot on a bombproof horse the least, again consider relative risk though, the vast majority of XC riders whether wearing a body protector or not don't get injured and there have been very rare cases of broken necks coming off in an indoor school at a low pace). The best study I've seen looked at cross-country riding only (so obviously at the more dangerous end of the spectrum) and suggested relative risk of injury was reduced by wearing a body protector by 53%. Other studies with different designs suggested a reduction of somewhere between 20-80% so a huge range. I do have to say if they were at the upper range of that effectiveness you'd think they would have caught on much more in other similarly risky sports - BMX, skiing, mountain biking, motorbikes etc where you see similar kinds of accidents to riding and where people do already wear some protective gear like helmets, but they really haven't at all so far as I know - which brings me on to say....

You do have to consider the negative impacts of wearing something constricting and uncomfortable - I've had this debate with friends and some people swear blind a body protector isn't uncomfortable to ride in but frankly I think they're mistaken and/or have gotten so used to wearing one all the time they forget how much nicer it is without one - design and comfort has improved a lot over the years and some of the more high end models are definitely much more light-weight and breathable than they ever used to be but in the end part of the way they work to protect you is by creating a semi-rigid structure that holds your organs in place in the event of a fall and so they have to be tight fitting and somewhat restrictive. I'm not saying that makes them not worth it, I think similar comments could apply to wearing a helmet and largely people agree you should do that, or to take it outside riding, seatbelts in a car are again a bit uncomfortable but nearly everyone agrees the benefits are worth it. But you have to take it into account at the end of the day.

Personally when my kids were riding I set the boundary at body protectors needed for jumping, hacking or XC - anything more than schooling basically. I have to admit to being a little bit more lax with myself and I don't always wear one for low level jumping or a quiet hack in the summer if I judge the risk to be low. Like I others on the yard do wear one all the time no matter what they are doing which is fair enough too, and a few people never do. So long as you've thought about it and come to your own decision and you are abiding by yard/school rules then I think you are good!

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 25/10/2022 13:40

Maxellys answer is excellent and I agree, it’s not black and white. They can project you and are definitely worthwhile for XC, however they need to fit perfectly or can alter your position- if if they are too long they will tip you forward which can make you more unstable in case of a fall, and I’ve also read if they are the wrong size they can create certain jarring injuries if you do fall.
While the tech has improved they are not hugely comfortable either.

LaPufalina · 26/10/2022 05:58

Yes, Maxelly's answer is very comprehensive!
My 5yo wears one every time she rides because we don't have our own arena so she hacking or at a lesson/rally/show offsite. She's so used to it!
I feel like a tortoise when I wear mine, I don't wear it hacking but do for jumping and farm rides. I had a nasty fall a few months back but landed on my head, pelvis and shin hurt too but if his feet had landed differently I'd have regretted not wearing it!

RatherBeRiding · 26/10/2022 09:52

Hate them with a passion. I went through a very short phase of wearing one all the time but soon packed that in when I fell off after a fairly normal spook because I felt my balance was compromised by wearing one. Since then I only ever wore one for XC but most XC events and hire venues insist on one anyway. Same with my DD - even though she has a Racesafe, which we both find by far the most comfortable - she only ever wore when when jumping fixed fences.

I find them restrictive and they definitely affect my position and balance. And of the many, many falls I have had a body protector would have made no difference to the outcome. My most recent fall was a very minor affair when my mare spooked and did her usual spin, drop shoulder and try to bugger off the other way and i managed to keep hold of the reins, resulting in my shoulder being wrenched. As for DD - the only time she came off at XC and actually made contact with the fence, she hit her hip underneath the body protector anyway!

They have their uses and will have saved many riders from injury but you have to decide yourself whether the type of riding you are doing is likely to be made 'safer' by wearing one.

bravelittletiger · 26/10/2022 11:40

Wow these are such excellent and comprehensive answers. Thank you so much. It sounds like for the type of riding I'm currently doing (schooling in an arena or field) it might not be necessary but if I improve and start doing more risky riding it might be worth it. I think I'll try one when I'm next at the shop just to see how it feels so I've got it in the back of my mind.

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Kabbalah · 26/10/2022 11:45

RatherBeRiding, got bitten the other day and he took a chunk out of my "flak jacket ". That would have been me !.

MaJoady · 26/10/2022 12:01

I only wear one to jump. And it does affect my position slightly, I have to to much more conscious of sitting deep and using my core properly in it.

My riding instructor says they are double edged sword as far as she is concerned. Great if they give a novice rider more confidence, but she can't see their position as well. And she has seen cases where a novice rider is actually slouched and has no core engagement inside their back protector, which is mostly hidden. And then when they ride something trickier, or progress to lateral work, or even basic canter circles they can't cope. And get demoralised that they essentially have to go back to basics because they never had them properly in the first place.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 26/10/2022 12:59

I think it is a question of personal risk assessment. You need to understand the positive and negatives and decide for yourself based upon your own personal level of risk.

There are people who wear one whenever they handle or ride a horse and others who only wear one when compelled to do so. Some will even avoid activities where they are compulsory to avoid wearing one.

Personally I only wear mine for cross country or arena eventing at the moment. I have a safe horse that I know well and don't jump anything big. I might reconsider if I had a young or tricky horse or if I had any medical conditions that made me more vulnerable to injury.

XelaM · 26/10/2022 23:27

OP I spent £200 on my daughter's racesafe bodyprotector and she literally never ever wears it (she does SJ, very rarely a bit of XC in the field for fun). I am actually looking at selling it because it's just hanging at home (not even at the yard) and is practically brand new, only worn maybe 2-3 times maximum. 😞

foxlover47 · 27/10/2022 02:06

@XelaM that sounds like me ! I brought mine in august but I feel so uncomfortable and stiff when I wear it

sanityisamyth · 27/10/2022 03:10

DS(8) only wears his for XC really. Tonight he was cantering/galloping without reins and stirrups in the school looking as safe as houses, and was galloping on the beach without stirrups at the weekend, so I don't worry about him on the flat. He doesn't like show jumping with it on and his pony is pretty reliable, but he understands it's a legal requirement at the riding school that he HAS to wear the body protector XC.

Postapocalypticcowgirl · 27/10/2022 15:40

I have a Champion one which is similar to the racesafe, as made of lots of small parts rather than big blocks (if that makes sense). I still rarely wear it- mostly only for fun rides etc when insurance insists on it. I actually find it pretty comfortable, but I do feel I'm not as flexible in it, and don't find it as easy to sit to my pony's movement.

I do think they are a good invention, and if I was jumping etc more, then I would wear it more- as they do provide good protection from falling on poles etc, or being trodden on in the event of a fall.

Some people get on with them very well. OP, it might be worth going to a decent tack shop and trying on a range of brands. If you find a really comfortable one, then that might be the answer for you?

Hexenjagd · 27/10/2022 15:58

if they were at the upper range of that effectiveness you'd think they would have caught on much more in other similarly risky sports - BMX, skiing, mountain biking, motorbikes etc

this is an interesting point.

i used to Ride, motorbike, Mountainbike, and have occasionally skied/ snowboarded. I also rollerskate and skateboard (yep theres a theme)

I didn’t use a back protector when I was last riding regularly, but now having more experience of other dangerous sports, I would consider it.

ive seen the evolution of body and spinal protection in the other sports I do. Motorbiking leathers have inbuilt body/spine protection — usually a removable high density foam core. Mountain biking is moving to something similar, in that a lot of the Rucksacks have spinal protection in them. And for the rollersports, bumsavers / crashpants are now a thing.

Fudgeball123 · 27/10/2022 21:53

We get our kids (12 and 9) to wear them at all times. They fall off once every two weeks and if it helps reduce some impact I see this as a price worth paying.

Gremlinsateit · 01/11/2022 08:15

I bought a racesafe after a fall a few months ago. I had an incredibly lucky fall, onto soft ground and landing on my side with no head, elbow or shoulder contact. As an adult beginner who doesn’t recover as quickly as I used to, now that I know DHorse (part loan) can do quite a dramatic spook, it makes sense to me to reduce the risk of organ damage.

I had it fitted in the shop so it is not too long in the back (not all brands offer different lengths), and while it’s annoying to do up, it’s fine once on. I don’t feel it affects my posture. I don’t wear it for lessons on more
predictable riding school horses.

bravelittletiger · 02/11/2022 21:10

XelaM · 26/10/2022 23:27

OP I spent £200 on my daughter's racesafe bodyprotector and she literally never ever wears it (she does SJ, very rarely a bit of XC in the field for fun). I am actually looking at selling it because it's just hanging at home (not even at the yard) and is practically brand new, only worn maybe 2-3 times maximum. 😞

That's very annoying! Does she find it uncomfortable or is she just not in the habit of wearing it? X

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bravelittletiger · 02/11/2022 21:11

sanityisamyth · 27/10/2022 03:10

DS(8) only wears his for XC really. Tonight he was cantering/galloping without reins and stirrups in the school looking as safe as houses, and was galloping on the beach without stirrups at the weekend, so I don't worry about him on the flat. He doesn't like show jumping with it on and his pony is pretty reliable, but he understands it's a legal requirement at the riding school that he HAS to wear the body protector XC.

Bloody hell galloping without reins and stirrups?!

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bravelittletiger · 02/11/2022 21:13

Postapocalypticcowgirl · 27/10/2022 15:40

I have a Champion one which is similar to the racesafe, as made of lots of small parts rather than big blocks (if that makes sense). I still rarely wear it- mostly only for fun rides etc when insurance insists on it. I actually find it pretty comfortable, but I do feel I'm not as flexible in it, and don't find it as easy to sit to my pony's movement.

I do think they are a good invention, and if I was jumping etc more, then I would wear it more- as they do provide good protection from falling on poles etc, or being trodden on in the event of a fall.

Some people get on with them very well. OP, it might be worth going to a decent tack shop and trying on a range of brands. If you find a really comfortable one, then that might be the answer for you?

That's a good suggestion. I went to the tack shop last week...didn't see any body protectors so I'm not sure if they have much of a selection. I did however manage to purchase a lovely cosy body warmer for winter riding lessons!

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plominoagain · 02/11/2022 21:28

Yes . Every single time I ride . Having ridden for so long now , it’s as habitual to me as putting my hat on . Nearly all my dramatic accidents happened when I least expected them - having my big horse slip on the road and roll actually across me with a tractor yards from us , and getting away with two broken wrists , when I should have broken much worse , for example . I’ve fallen off or had accidents much more at home than competing .

I have both a race safe and a point two and for me , having spent so much money on them , why would I not then use them ? And seeing as. I seem to snap more than bounce these days , I’d rather not take the risk .

DotBall · 02/11/2022 21:47

I use mine for everything except flat work. It’s a Champion and once it’s on I forget about it within a couple of minutes as it warms and moulds to my body. I’ve had it a good few years and it’s like a second skin.

It is quite rocky where I hack and I always think if DHorse slipped and I came off, I would more than likely land across a rock and that’s gonna hurt!

We always had to have them once we started jumping in lessons (I learnt as an adult) so I’ve just carried on wearing it routinely.

sanityisamyth · 03/11/2022 07:11

@bravelittletiger yep. Luckily his pony is very reliable!!

Postapocalypticcowgirl · 03/11/2022 19:13

That's a good suggestion. I went to the tack shop last week...didn't see any body protectors so I'm not sure if they have much of a selection. I did however manage to purchase a lovely cosy body warmer for winter riding lessons!

Maybe time for a day trip to a bigger one? Always a good day out!

if they were at the upper range of that effectiveness you'd think they would have caught on much more in other similarly risky sports - BMX, skiing, mountain biking, motorbikes etc

Body protectors were originally designed to protect riders in three main situations, I believe:

  1. being trodden on by a horse after a fall (particularly in racing)- obviously a lot of pressure in one spot + metal shoe. This isn't common with other sports, btw.

  2. to protect against falling on objects such as jumps etc (but also stones)- again this is less of an issue in e.g. skiing, where you've got a softer landing at least. Even BMX tracks are quite a bit softer than a showjump!

  3. to protect against crush injuries where the horse and rider falls- probably the only place you'd see similar to this in the examples you gave is in motorbiking, and most bike leathers do have some spinal protection at least. But again, you're less likely to get the type of rotational falls you can get cross country.

People have started to wear them as a protection against other types of falls, and I'm sure they do offer some benefit- but they were originally developed to deal with specific risks in racing and XC riding- which actually aren't common to other sports.

randomsabreuse · 03/11/2022 19:23

Where I used to ride required them for jumping. I generally preferred to go without for flatwork as I wanted the instructor to see my alignment easily unless I was wearing the wrong bra...

FellPuck · 03/11/2022 19:33

I always wear a Racesafe for hacking and jumping, I never used to as a teenager, but since then I experienced a pretty bad back injury (from Rugby, not riding) that left me unable to walk properly for a year, so i'm not taking that chance anymore. I also plan to get an air jacket in the future.

If properly fitted it shouldn't impact position, it's just a case of getting used to wearing it.