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The tack room
Prince William
Serenbunny · 01/06/2022 20:11
Anyone else seen the footage of Prince William on his horse & think that horse has been sedated?
MyHusbandTheIdiot · 01/06/2022 20:18
Ummm… no… the horse is in a free walk, body language suggests absolutely nothing of the sort…
FictionalCharacter · 01/06/2022 21:10
You mean this? Link
Seems highly unlikely they’d sedate a Household Cavalry horse. And why would they? He’s an accomplished rider. PETA are way off here, there are reasons for a horse to drop its head other than being drugged or injured.
Serenbunny · 01/06/2022 21:51
It wasn't the head position so much as that the horse was sweating alot more than the others and the posture & poor coordination of it's hind quarters. Wouldn't expect a highly schooled horse to move like that.
I can think of a local yard that has some very wealthy clients who mainly live abroad & don't ride often. The horses are given a small amount of sedalin before the owner gets on. It did remind me of that.
Zireael · 01/06/2022 21:58
Not in the slightest. Horse knows his job and behaving just fine.
Whitney168 · 01/06/2022 22:04
FFS, William plays polo - I reckon he can handle riding a horse in a walk without drugging it!
OrlandointheWilderness · 01/06/2022 22:11
Eh?! The horse is completely fine! And I seriously doubt PW would need a well trained cavalry charger doped to walk it, he's a very accomplished rider!
MadameCholetsDirtySecret · 01/06/2022 22:14
I would have thought a sedated horse is more dangerous that a lively one . Cavalry horses are manageable for an experienced rider like William.
Lastqueenofscotland2 · 01/06/2022 22:20
Frankel used to go round parade rings at Royal Ascot with his head on the floor… horses known their jobs
liveforsummer · 01/06/2022 22:22
Sedalin would do nothing for a hot horse in this environment. In a quiet yard for Ashley time maybe but it's so easily over ridden with any stimulus. It's likely sweating because it's warm. Getting a horse to lower and stretch like that is a goal that anyone knowledgeable about horses understands! Peta have no clue!
DiscoBadgers · 01/06/2022 22:25
He’s a very experienced and capable rider. There would be absolutely no need to drug the horse. It just looks chilled, and a bit bored.
Floralnomad · 01/06/2022 22:25
In the picture with the 3 horses are we supposed to assume they’ve all been drugged then as they all look the same . Ridiculous .
Lolabalola · 01/06/2022 22:29
My little cob strolls round the dressage warm
Up
Like this, looks like he has just finished a really hard milk round
Then five minutes before our time I pick him up and off he bounces
Just a relaxed horse that knows its job .
Reallyreallyborednow · 01/06/2022 22:31
Horses lower their head and stretch down when in a relaxed walk- most dressage tests have a loose rein down centre line in the middle. The horse is supposed to show it’s looseness and relaxation by stretching long and low.
i can only see the still footage but that’s what it looks like to me. A loose rein and a horse relaxing down to the bit rather than working in an “outline”
TrainspottingWelsh · 01/06/2022 22:33
Er, no. I very much doubt that anyone that has rode all their life and plays polo needs a cavalry horse sedating so they can ride it. Nor can I see any reason why you’d want to sedate a horse to do the job it’s been trained for. PETA are a bunch of cranks relying on the fact most people know fuck all about horses and even less about sedating them.
XelaM · 01/06/2022 23:08
That looked like normal horse behaviour to me.
He's been riding all his life and the Royals are horse-mad. They really don't need to sedate a horse to be able to handle it in walk.
Serenbunny · 01/06/2022 23:57
Reallyreallyborednow · 01/06/2022 22:31
Horses lower their head and stretch down when in a relaxed walk- most dressage tests have a loose rein down centre line in the middle. The horse is supposed to show it’s looseness and relaxation by stretching long and low.
i can only see the still footage but that’s what it looks like to me. A loose rein and a horse relaxing down to the bit rather than working in an “outline”
It's not the photos & I don't have any time for PETA campaigns but in the footage I've seen the horse is obviously not right compared with the other horses, even stumbles & sways. It does look very like a horse that's been sedated. It looks like it was filmed by people at the event so could be some sort of deep fake footage created by PETA but even in the official footage there's definitely something not right.
Try looking for video rather than stills & ignore the PETA / daily mail stuff
Northernsoullover · 02/06/2022 00:01
Lastqueenofscotland2 · 01/06/2022 22:20
Frankel used to go round parade rings at Royal Ascot with his head on the floor… horses known their jobs
I haven't heard of Frankel in years. My mother used to say 'You look like Frankel' when I wore leg warmers in the 80s 😂
liveforsummer · 02/06/2022 06:36
@Northernsoullover Frankel the race horse was born in 2008 so definitely not the same one 😆. Sure she wasn't saying Frankie as in Frankie goes to Hollywood? .
liveforsummer · 02/06/2022 06:42
The footage I've seen just looks like a horse trained to do a very slow loose walk. They are riding with reins on the buckle end. A horse sedated with something to the point they don't just over ride it in that atmosphere and are falling about would need holding on to tightly. More likely the horse is hot and tired after days of intense training and then carrying that weight of tack and a large man in a heavy uniform. He's maybe even being a touch lazy.
tattychicken · 02/06/2022 06:42
I've looked at a few videos now and I really can't see what you're talking about. There's a few moments when the horse is standing still but pawing the ground, one of those clips is from the horses shoulders up so you can't see the horse pawing but you can tell by the movements and how William lifts the reins to stop him that is what he is doing.
The horse is calm, relaxed, knows what he is doing and William is an experienced rider. I imagine due to the central role William is playing they would put him on the most reliable/experienced horse. Why on earth would they then drug the horse? It defies logic.
XelaM · 02/06/2022 07:01
Serenbunny · 01/06/2022 23:57
It's not the photos & I don't have any time for PETA campaigns but in the footage I've seen the horse is obviously not right compared with the other horses, even stumbles & sways. It does look very like a horse that's been sedated. It looks like it was filmed by people at the event so could be some sort of deep fake footage created by PETA but even in the official footage there's definitely something not right.
Try looking for video rather than stills & ignore the PETA / daily mail stuff
Reallyreallyborednow · 01/06/2022 22:31
Horses lower their head and stretch down when in a relaxed walk- most dressage tests have a loose rein down centre line in the middle. The horse is supposed to show it’s looseness and relaxation by stretching long and low.
i can only see the still footage but that’s what it looks like to me. A loose rein and a horse relaxing down to the bit rather than working in an “outline”
The video that was poster by the poster in this thread? The horse looks totally normal to me
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