Livery / grazing woes

[foxlover47]

Nothing much to add except why is it so hard to find grazing around Bedfordshire 🙈
It's so hard to find anyone with empty paddocks who want to rent them out too l!
That's all
Really

[Biddie191]

It's so hard, but then for the land-owners, it's hard too - some liveries are amazing, but others just trash all your ground and fencing, then leave. I've had that before, they paid £10 week per horse (2 horses), they stayed a few months, and we had to replace the majority of fence posts, as they were broken, chewed or pushed over. Gate was bent, and field very cut up, with areas grazed to the roots, and stale areas where no poo-picking or harrowing done.

[Lastqueenofscotland]

I know several yard owners and increasingly its not worth their while unless it’s part or full. Not least because it means that then everything is roughly on the same routine and you’ve not got some poor fucker going nuts with no hay until 12 noon on Saturday when the owner is in bed hungover but says no to you turning them out for them because they want to ride

[foxlover47]

@Biddie191 omg that's absolutely terrible 😳 how can people have no shame it would be like moving house and leaving it in a complete disgusting state before the new owner / tenant moves in !
I'm sorry to hear that , I can see why that would put you off doing that again and at such a cheap rate too

[foxlover47]

@Lastqueenofscotland yeah that also makes sense , and the security of knowing that the jobs are getting done properly too , see full livery feels wrong to me because I've always done it myself it's like when you go to the shops and they pack your groceries for you .. I feel guilty 🙈

[Biddie191]

Foxlover - it was a few years ago, but yes, it was cheap, they were good fields with shelters, thought the grazing would help them but it just cost so much to put things right afterwards, and the worry of other people's horses. It was probably partly my fault, as our own horses were quite easy, and didn't break fences (well, not very often) so I hadn't even considered the damage that less calm ones would do.
Posts probably cost me £60 to replace (but a hell of a lot of hard work to actually pull out old ones, bang in new ones etc), Gate would have been around £70, plus delivery etc, and a real pain to sort out. There was lots of grass, but they still used to poach one end as they'd trot up and down the fenceline looking at horses a few fields over (they were in together, but didn't seem to help).
Hey-ho, live and learn!