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Discuss horse riding and ownership on our Horse forum.

Prices

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Dreaming777 · 20/08/2021 22:32

Do you think horse prices will continue to rise or fall shortly have been saving for a horse have a good budget but don’t want to buy something over priced if they’ll presumably fall again but on the other hand I don’t want it to rise yet again and it be unachievable. Thanks any advice welcome I’m in West Yorkshire to specify as I know different areas always have different price margins.

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Dreaming777 · 20/08/2021 22:48

General opinions welcome as I’m really at a cross roads about what to do

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Josettegrey · 20/08/2021 23:45

I think that we are at a stage where they won’t get any higher, but they will start to level out a bit. But certainly not go down to pre COVID prices where a 5k horse today would have been £2k a couple of years ago.

I have noticed that there is still certainly demand (well, with ponies anyway), so when there’s demand, there is the ability to ask for silly money.

If I were you and in no mega hurry, I’d just keep your eye out/options open. And if you see one you like, take it from there. Amongst the silly prices, you can still find some reasonably priced ones. This is what I would do. Plus If you are overly cautious it might be worth waiting/keep your eye on the market and continuing to save in the meantime.

Pleasedontdothat · 21/08/2021 09:48

There are still relatively good value horses out there but you might have to compromise on a couple of things and/or get lucky.

We bought my dd’s horse from a private seller - her daughter had not clicked with the horse, they wanted to sell her but were ridiculously rich so weren’t that bothered about how much they got for her. If she’d been at a dealer or on sales livery with a pro she’d have been nearly double what we paid.

However, it took several months of looking and seeing more expensive horses that were nowhere near as good before we found her, so it’s worth persevering.

From seeing friends buy and sell horses in the last few months, £14,000 seems to be the new £9-10,000 as in that will get you a nice all rounder who could do riding club/PC/unaffiliated stuff, good to hack etc but possibly won’t be able to be really competitive. I don’t get the sense that prices are still spiralling so would be surprised if they keep going up but equally don’t think they’re going to drop that much now

Dreaming777 · 21/08/2021 11:18

I only want something that can hack go in the school occasionally I don’t want to do any competitions as I’m wanting a horse to relax still can’t find one all seem to be youngsters recently backed or 5000 for a golden oldie hardly any up here either

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lastqueenofscotland · 21/08/2021 19:12

Thing is everyone wants the same thing… a quiet, unspooky animal that never bucks, never naps, never gets strong or remotely forward in open spaces. Of course that’s expensive… it’s really hard to find!!

HighlandCowbag · 21/08/2021 22:19

Tbh the market is desperate for what you want and prices will always be high. A better investment may be in riding lessons on a wide variety of horses so you learn to cope with different situations and different horses so you can cope with a quirk. Loan something for a while to improve your fitness. Invest more in your riding ability and save money on purchasing the sought after unicorn. Push yourself out of your comfort zone.

Dreaming777 · 22/08/2021 16:03

Just to clarify I can definitely cope with quirks and bolting etc sit a buck and a rear I’m no novice but I was just asking about if it was sensible to pay the prices today as I know they do drop in winter and I hate wasting money!

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Dreaming777 · 22/08/2021 16:05

By wanting a horse to relax I mean I’m not looking to go out competing I don’t need a show stopper I just want a average joe but preferably one that’s broken in don’t get why your saying of course there expensive 😂 n

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lastqueenofscotland · 22/08/2021 21:33

Because there’s less of a market for competition animals? Market is supply and demand and everyone wants a safe hack, much less people want a 1.20 show jumper

notquiteruralbliss · 23/08/2021 09:54

I'm looking for a quality family horse that can jump. Given the current (slightly weird) market, it appears that my best bet is to buy a 4yo potential SJ that isn't going to be ready for age classes and the training needed to turn it into a family horse. In the past, that would have been much more expensive than buying a ready made allrounder.

maxelly · 23/08/2021 11:09

I think prices will drop a little over the winter as they usually do, but probably not by that much and there'll be correspondingly less on the market (plus I always think winter with the short days and having to stable overnight etc is a bad time to be getting a new horse anyway) so if you find something today that fits the bill I don't think you'd be silly to go for it at all, I doubt you'll be saving yourself more than a few hundred pounds max, and if you delay you could well end up having a frustrating winter going here there and everywhere seeing unsuitable or too expensive horses.

As others have said don't assume that because you're 'only' after a safe and sensible hack, not a competition horse, that necessarily means there's less demand/more on the market, I'd say the reverse, particularly since lockdown and all the riding schools closing etc every man and his dog wants their own horse to potter about on, whereas with competitions off and the pros losing their income, actually the competition market is probably more static.

Not accusing you of being a novice or an idiot, but it is a fact that in this country for the last decade or more no-one has been deliberately breeding nice 'average Joe' horses for the leisure market on a commercial scale (because it would have been financial lunacy to do so), until Brexit and lockdown there was enough supply from Ireland (supplemented with cast off sports horses that didn't make the grade, ex racers, indiscriminately bred cobs etc) to meet demand, but with the lockdown induced leap in desire for ownership plus the turning off (to some extent) of the taps of nice young ISH/Connie/Irish cob types coming over the water cheaply, you are now looking at too many buyers competing for too few horses hence prices being high. While I too go Shock when I hear of someone paying £5k+ for a not particularly special 5 year old cob, that price is basically a reflection now of the true costs of breeding, raising and training a nice 'average' animal ready for an a amateur owner in this country - costs which if you think about it, are really not that much less for an ordinary horse, a cob or native cross type say, than for a high-powered WB, yes OK the stud fee for a cob/native stallion is probably virtually nil compared to a few k for a competition proven/graded WB, but after that the bulk of the costs and work, vets bills, foaling the mare, grazing and feeding the youngstock, breaking in and bringing on etc are virtually the same or perhaps even more costly/hard work if you want to the horse to be safe, calm and not a tricky/professionals ride which you might accept in a competition youngster... I know you probably aren't after a youngster so you may think what's she on about talking about youngstock, but just trying to illustrate that with any commodity on the market (sorry to refer to horses as commodities but when they are being bought and sold that's what they are) you have to look at the base costs of 'production'/obtaining and readying the animal and what people are prepared to pay and basically, unless you have a low cost source of supply and/or low demand, prices will rise, and that includes older/proven horses as well as youngsters since the price of a 5 year old will directly influence the price of a 7yo and so on...

As Please says that doesn't mean you won't find something particularly if you are happy with the odd quirk or minor health issue but you need to be patient, prepared to pay a bit more than you would have for the same animal 5 years ago and try out plenty before you find the right one! Hence me saying if you find the right one now don't let him/her go in the hopes of saving a few quid come the winter. As unis seem to be actually going back this year you might well find a nice teenagers horse being sold on about now as owner is off to uni in September, for instance?

ipredictariot5 · 23/08/2021 16:05

Agree with @maxelly - I am also looking at present for similar - RC type activities, farm rides hacking plus a bit of jumping and prices are way higher than when I was last looking. I think the 8k bracket is now 12k etc. The supply from Ireland is also hit by Brexit and what is coming over seems to be 4 year olds broken badly without the foundations of being able to potter round local shows for a year or so.
It is a good time to buy with teenagers off to university but I think you need to be prepared to pay and if you see something snap it up as an awful lot of people are on the lookout for what you want

Dreaming777 · 23/08/2021 20:20

Ok thanks I’m going to leave it a couple of years I think and save up and buy a horse for life as opposed to a horse for now thanks everyone

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FanFckingTastic · 24/08/2021 09:50

I don't think that prices will drop particularly now. I bought my mare just before Christmas last year - I've still kept a little eye on the market (just because I love horse window-shopping!) and if anything I would say that prices have continued to climb. That said, you can still get decent horses within a budget, you just need to keep looking and be prepared to compromise a little on certain things.

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