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Back riding after 20 years - first fall. Now scared.

21 replies

1990s · 26/07/2021 16:26

Just looking for some wisdom really.

I know falling is part of it, and I need to learn to do it (doesn't hurt for me to be told again Grin). I used to be able to stick to pretty much anything but my seat clearly isn't what it was.

I'm scared Sad I know the horse can feel it. What can I do?

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Sarahlou63 · 26/07/2021 16:53

You could try this course;

www.horsebackcombat.co.uk/courses/rider-confidence-course/

Zana is great - also worth following Karl Greenwood on FB.

1990s · 26/07/2021 17:03

That does look interesting, thank you!

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Bryonyshcmyony · 26/07/2021 17:04

How and where did the fall happen?

GoingGently · 26/07/2021 17:09

Just following because I'm in a similar situation...

1990s · 26/07/2021 17:09

In walk, outdoor school, horse spooked twice and I stayed on, third time dropped her shoulder and bolted and I came off.

Was happily cantering circles etc again beforehand.

I think that's part of the problem as it happened in walk, nothing feels "safe".

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Bryonyshcmyony · 26/07/2021 17:10

It didn't happen in walk though
She bolted? Is she yours

Bryonyshcmyony · 26/07/2021 17:14

What did she spook at?
I have a neckstrap

randomsabreuse · 26/07/2021 17:17

Sitting stuff comes through a strong core - I've felt comfortable returning to riding after 18 months off (riding school lessons - Covid lockdowns got in the way) because I waited until I was generally fit before returning. I've been able to sit some minor spooks and kick outs/mini bucks better than before I stopped because I'm generally fitter even though I'm not riding fit.

Can you find a "core strength for riders" course near you or online?

Also walk is often easier for horses to spook if they're just walking without having to think - my instructor always tells me to keep a contact/vary the flexion on the spooky (for a riding school so not properly spooky) horse. Keep them thinking, changes of rain, working off the track rather than just walking around!

1990s · 26/07/2021 17:22

@Bryonyshcmyony

It didn't happen in walk though She bolted? Is she yours

That's a very good point. I guess in my head it was walk if yo see what I mean.

Not mine, lessons at a riding school. I do have a neck strap, just not convinced I'd react quickly enough to grab it!

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1990s · 26/07/2021 17:23

@randomsabreuse

Sitting stuff comes through a strong core - I've felt comfortable returning to riding after 18 months off (riding school lessons - Covid lockdowns got in the way) because I waited until I was generally fit before returning. I've been able to sit some minor spooks and kick outs/mini bucks better than before I stopped because I'm generally fitter even though I'm not riding fit.

Can you find a "core strength for riders" course near you or online?

Also walk is often easier for horses to spook if they're just walking without having to think - my instructor always tells me to keep a contact/vary the flexion on the spooky (for a riding school so not properly spooky) horse. Keep them thinking, changes of rain, working off the track rather than just walking around!

Thank you this is very good advice. I'm a LOT less fit since the second lockdown, riding or otherwise.

And good point about the keeping them occupied in walk.

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Bryonyshcmyony · 26/07/2021 17:27

Yes keeping them occupied is really good advice! Hope you are OK. She sounds naughty (dropping the shoulder and bolting obviously all horses spook!) can you change horse?

1990s · 26/07/2021 17:30

@Bryonyshcmyony

Yes keeping them occupied is really good advice! Hope you are OK. She sounds naughty (dropping the shoulder and bolting obviously all horses spook!) can you change horse?

I am ok, thank you Smile it was a few weeks ago and I had a quite painful bruised back for several weeks, but better now.

I have changed horse, but the fear is still lurking...

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Bryonyshcmyony · 26/07/2021 17:38

If it makes you feel better, you sat the spooks (which is what a lot of horses do) but you came off when she really wanted you off - most horses don't do that!

HighlandCowbag · 27/07/2021 08:29

Ues spooking is forgivable, dropping the shoulder is dirty. I suspect she didn't want to work that day, it's an evasion technique often displayed by ponies with kicky, jabby kids on board.

Ask to ride the easiest horse for a while, explain to the riding school you have lost a bit of confidence and they should work with you. If they don't find another school.

Core strength is also vital, yoga will help then when you are stronger and more flexible pilates. I've not ridden properly for 20 years, but I run and feel confident with my fitness levels getting on my very green mare. Yoga will definitely help with aches and pains as well. Mine comes back into work next week (just moved yards and haven't ridden since last October for various reasons) and will be yoga'ing before and after.

StrangeToSee · 28/07/2021 06:54

Were the spooks real or was she testing you to see if she could get you off? Did you have a stick?

She sounds naughty tbh.

logincard · 28/07/2021 09:21

Im in a very similar position. started riding again in lockdown - basically a year ago after 20 years off. Bought my own ( first) pony in December.. have been having loads of fun jumping . x country, ODE et then had a crashing fall last weekend when she refused and i didnt stick...

I have rationalised it somewhat. Talked it though a LOT with friends, my instructor (s) , watched the video 50 x ; and thought relentlessly of the 100's of times I have NOT fallen off... I also wear a hat (obviously, but I will replace it after the fall and will do every 12-18monyths) and a good back protector.

I do core exercises - no every day, but 5 x a week or so ... Makes a difference I think

Get a neck strap if the pony doesnt have a martingale - and use it !

logincard · 28/07/2021 09:23

PS I agree dropping the shoulder is dirty. My pony spooks (quite )a lot but she's never done that - or actively tried to get me off

StrangeToSee · 28/07/2021 09:34

Shoulder dropping is almost always a tactic to get you off so I’d question whether the spooking was real or not. I used to ride a friend’s horse who shoulder dropped, but I got wise to him after a few falls. He’d also swerve right, left and then shoulder drop in a sort of zig zag unless you used the stick on the first double swerve. Mostly he wanted to get the rider off so he could go for a nice gallop, eg you’d be cantering in a group and he’d start pulling, then resort to his sneaky tactics if you held him back.

Is she normally skittish?

CaptainThe95thRifles · 28/07/2021 13:06

A neck strap is counter productive for a shoulder dropper - you need to take the precaution of a strong lower leg and a core of steel, which is easier to say than achieve. A good saddle with well placed blocks (that fits you well) can help to compensate for the required strength / balance, but that's unlikely to be an option with an RS horse.

To be honest, if the horse has form for this sort of move, and it wasn't a one off, I'd think it's not really appropriate for teaching people who aren't fully competent and riding fit. I have a shoulder-dropper in my herd and I'm very careful about the circumstance in which I allow anyone to ride him, which is a shame as he's a brilliant horse otherwise and he's not at all naughty, he's just sharp, sensitive and not very brave about life.

Denny Emerson (US 3DE / trainer / veteran of horsemanship) reckons that riding nerves primarily come from people lacking the strength or fitness to deal with what they're likely to encounter. In your shoes, that would be something you can work on off the horse, between lessons, either at by yourself or via one of the many rider fitness courses available in person and online.

During lessons, if the horse is being a twit or you're feeling insecure, I'd focus on keeping your shoulder behind your lower leg - not excessively, but just enough to give you stability in that sort of move. Focusing on a simple mantra (e.g. "heels down, leg forward, distract pony") can help to control your nerves and your thought processes while you're riding. It's much better to think something positive than "don't fall off"!

RatherBeRiding · 28/07/2021 13:16

Don't push yourself out of your comfort zone if you're nervous - the nerves will either settle or they won't. Lost confidence can take absolutely ages to regain, if at all.

In the meantime only do what you feel confident doing, on a horse that you feel confident on. If it's a riding school there should be some ploddy types that are pretty bombproof.

It's supposed to be fun - no sense in pushing yourself to do something that scares you. Still lots of fun to be had on quiet bombproof types!

GothamGirl1970 · 28/07/2021 13:21

Ask for a bombproof mare till you get your mojo back. Also please wear a body protector.

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