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Livery price reasonable?

14 replies

SoVery · 21/12/2020 15:06

He's on part livery for £500/month. 5 day turnout/bring in, muck out, hay and feed. 7 day turnout. All care to be done by the owners Sat/Sun.

They have just announced that Christmas Day, Boxing Day, NYE and NYD they will only be doing morning feed and hay.

I'm feeling a bit pissed off with all this. It seems so expensive for the service! How does this compare with others?

If it's relevant my gorgeous boy is only 20 months.

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RatherBeRiding · 21/12/2020 15:55

Whereabouts are you? That's comparable to what I pay for similar type service in the north of England. And the Christmas Day/Boxing Day/NYD is pretty standard and what happens on my yard. Is feed included?

lastqueenofscotland · 21/12/2020 16:29

Whereabouts are you? I’m on the NW and £500 is full livery at one of the posher yards

NotPaloma · 21/12/2020 17:42

That's expensive. I'm in Yorkshire and pay £90 a week for full livery all 7 days. Xmas day, boxing day and NY day are all minimal i.e. horses left in unless we can bring them in at the end of the day.

SoVery · 21/12/2020 20:24

I'm in the SE. Hampshire. It's the 5 day thing that irritates me really!

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SoVery · 21/12/2020 20:25

I think it's overpriced, I really do. But it is a lovely yard, I trust them with him and it's literally a 2-3 minute drive from me.

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NewYearNewTwatName · 21/12/2020 20:43

Were I live part livery like you describe, ranges from £350-700 depending on the yard, facilities, number of staff.

given your location I'd say it looks mid range.

On my yard which is mainly DIY with a few part liveries and a couple full liveries. Xmas, boxing day, nyd there are no services for anyone but the 2 full liveries.

Yard down the road which only caters for full liveries and part liveries, the xmas period is included but it is a very expensive yard. I not sure but they may pay extra for those xmas days too.

SansaSnark · 24/12/2020 13:49

Are they reducing livery for that period?

I wouldn't be happy with that either.

If your horse is only 20 months old, I'd strongly suggest finding grass livery at a stud until he is old enough to be backed- it will probably be a lot cheaper, too!

ISeeTheLight · 24/12/2020 13:55

NE here, stables where my daughter rides are £500 full livery.

SansaSnark · 24/12/2020 14:11

Have they only just announced this? I think the short notice is pretty unreasonable too.

For 4 days (not just Christmas), I think I would expect some reduction in livery.

SoVery · 24/12/2020 17:20

Yard manager mentioned it to me in an unrelated text. "....oh did you know it's only morning feed on x days, the rest is up to the owners."

I shall be actively looking for a new yard for him. It's a shame but there are too many niggles now.

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Shadowboy · 24/12/2020 17:38

I’m £300 per month which is full livery 3x a week then turn out 2 x per week and DIY over the weekend. Hay and shavings included. Here £500 per month would be 7 day full. £415 is 5 day part with TO only at weekends.

WTAFdoodles · 24/12/2020 21:37

I'm on exactly the same range of services/days as you for £300 pm but have to buy hay and feed on top, don't know if you get yours included.

backinthebox · 25/12/2020 22:57

I think when people look at the price of livery, they forget that people actually have to make a living out of this. You don’t elaborate on the level of service you are getting for your full livery, so it is difficult to tell if you are getting value for money.

Before they even begin to pay a groom, the yard owner has to pay for:
Rent/mortgage
Rates
Insurance
Water
Electricity
Repairs

If they are doing only the bare minimum, it will still probably take them at the very least half an hour a day to turn out, bring in, feed, put in hay, and muck out. If your yard owner employs a young groom they could get away with paying them as little as £4.55 per hour - so the labour will cost about £60 per month. There will be costs associated with having an employee - holiday pay/cover etc, unless they are paying piecemeal and treating their staff poorly. If the yard owner is doing the work themselves, and are over 21, it is going to cost more like £110. But that doesn’t cover the labour costs of yard maintenance, which can be very time consuming. I only have 3 horses and keep things very simple, but I spend hours each month repairing broken fences, plumbing and the like. There are hedges to cut, harrowing and rolling in the spring, fertiliser spreading, muck heap removal, paddock topping, gateway repairing. These things all need doing on a much bigger scale in a yard. It is likely that your yard owner needs to run a vehicle such as a tractor or quad to maintain the yard. If they don’t, they will be paying someone else to do the jobs you need a vehicle for. You don’t say if hay and bedding are included, but if they are even buying in bulk that’s a fair chunk of cost.

I would say if your horse takes less than half an hour a day to do, and you are not getting any bedding or hay, your livery would have to be costing at least £250 per month for the yard owner just to break even. Minimum quantities of low quality bedding and hay would add about £50 to that. Just to break even. At £500 per month your yard owner would be bringing in less than £50 per week per horse profit. Multiply that up by the number of horses on your yard, and that’s her profit. They will have to pay themselves something out of that too, and put aside some money to cover large one-off or emergency bills.

As you can see, you might not think you are getting value for money, but your yard owner is not getting rich on it either. Everyone deserves some time off each year, and at every yard I have ever kept a horse on the horse owner covers Christmas Day and Boxing Day. You can get more elaborate livery, but it will cost more and rightly so. Unfortunately keeping a horse, whatever age it is, is not cheap. I am astounded at people managing to get full livery for £300 a month - how does that even work?

NotPaloma · 26/12/2020 08:57

My livery hasn't gone up in 3 years. I'm always telling the yard owner they ought to increase the price as the cost of everything else has gone up so any profit they were making is being eroded.

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