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Issues at new yard - move again or stick it out?

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Daytimetellysucks · 08/08/2019 17:07

We have 2 mares, 1 retired and 1 DD rides.

We were at what was a lovely yard for years, then the husband and wife owners split up and it all went mad. It got unbearable so 3 weeks ago we moved to what appeared to be a lovely yard with a really lovely yard owner.

We pay for 2 x full livery which is supposed to include a paddock per livery. We agreed at the start that they’d share and we’d rotate between our 2 paddocks. We now want the 2nd paddock - was told he was saving the spare ones for his horses.

He has a side business selling bedding and feed. We tried his bedding, didn’t like it so went back to the type we’ve always used - he’s now told us we can’t, we have to use his bedding (not told anything about using his bedding at the start, no written contract)

He has another horse which was at a different yard when we moved in. Horse is now at our yard and has taken a liking to DD’s riding pony. YO’s horse won’t come in if ours are not in. If YO does manage to get it in or we put ours out earlier, horse kicks the shit out of its stable - honestly, there’s huge holes in the bloody roof!!!

YO has now announced that we cannot put our horses out before 8am and must bring them in before 6pm - we’re at work during the day, we put them out about 7am and depending on work bring them in anytime after 6:30pm. We made it clear to him when we looked round the yard these were our hours and he was fine with it (he lives on site so we wanted to be clear that we’d be there early). Weekend we can accommodate him, but weekdays we can’t.

He’s told us we make their beds at the wrong end of the stable, he doesn’t like where we put their water buckets. He goes through our stuff - he told me the other day he’d been reading the ingredients on the back of a supplement we use and he sold something cheaper so we should buy it from him rather than the vet we currently buy it from. It’s in our cupboard. He rearranged the rugs we have hanging up.

So yesterday DD went to the yard with a friend. We asked him when we looked round if he was OK with DD being there on her own/or with a friend and he said it was fine. DD is 14 and quiet and sensible, as is her friend.

DD got her pony in, groomed her and tacked her up - his horse started to kick off in the field so YO had to come out of his house. DD and friend rode DD’s pony in the school for an hour, hosed her down, turned her back out. YO’s horse then calmed down.

DD and her friend mucked out/did all the jobs so we just needed to bring them in last night, then they got the bus home. They were there about 3 hours all in.

She said there was a livery in the school when they got there but they finished pretty soon after she got there, the other livery was out on a hack when DD got there and came back while they were mucking out (there’s 3 liveries including us). No one else was there.

I go up there last night and the YO tells me that DD isn’t allowed to use the school during the day anymore - I asked why, it was the school holidays, of course she wanted to ride, was she misbehaving. YO replied no, but bringing pony in during the day meant his horse kicked off and pulled down some electric fences. I asked what his plans were for when DD took horse off for a competition this weekend? Or she fancied a hack - he replied that we needed to give him ample notice if we wanted to take DD’s pony out so he could make plans. I told him that wasn’t possible but if I saw him on the yard I’d do my best to let him know of any plans

So, were looking at another yard this Sunday.

But, it’s only been 3 weeks. They’ve both taken a while to settle and I don’t want to keep moving from yard to yard, but he’s not being reasonable right? Friends have been on yards with pretty mad rules and crazy micromanagement but I can’t see we’ve done anything wrong

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Daytimetellysucks · 08/08/2019 17:09

Oh god, that’s so long! Sorry

TL:DR - moved to new yard 3 weeks ago, YO gives us loads of mad rules that weren’t mentioned to begin with. Move again, or stick it out in the hope he improves?

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RatherBeRiding · 08/08/2019 17:12

Oh God - just move! It sounds an absolute nightmare and it won't get any better. After only 3 weeks they won't be that settled anyway so another move to somewhere less stressful can only be a good thing.

I've never been on a yard with such ridiculous rules as yours - YO is obviously making up stuff as he goes along.

His horse's attachment issues are not your problem, and as for not liking how you do your stable or where you put your buckets - that's just madness.

Keep looking for another yard.

Daytimetellysucks · 08/08/2019 17:28

Yes, he’s definitely making it up as he goes along.

Our retiree has arthritis, we want her out as much as possible and if the weather is nice we leave them out 24/7 (which we told him and he was fine with when we looked round).

It’s still light at 8:30, on nice days we’ve been having dinner then going up to ride/bring them in

He should be working on his horse, not expecting us to accommodate it. He could move him into one of the paddocks he’s saving further away from ours so they can’t see each other for a start

He’s doing my head in. Everyday he moans about something

They’re just starting to settle down a bit, the retiree was abused and neglected in previous home and she’s always a bit nervy so I’m loathe to move them but I want to scream.

It all costs far to much money, time and work for this much hassle

There’s not many livery yards round here, especially when looking for 2 - we’re going to see one on Sunday and I’ve put our names down on waiting lists for a couple of others so fingers crossed we can get out of there

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ChelseaCat · 08/08/2019 17:32

Definitely move! He sounds like a nightmare!

pinkpolo · 09/08/2019 10:05

Sounds awful Shock if I was in this situation, I'd move ASAP!

I've recently moved yards due to some pretty awful liveries, and one of my horses is the most anxious and complicated horse I've ever owned. The thought of moving him and upsetting him kept me on a horrible yard that I hated. I eventually realised that DHorse wouldn't be happy unless I was, so we moved.

Best thing I ever did! DHorse settled really quickly. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

Moanranger · 09/08/2019 17:38

I think horses cope with moves better than we realise. As long as you are there to reassure them & you can keep a consistent routine when you move, they should settle.
It sounds like the bonding issue with your Pony & YO horse needs to be sorted anyway & moving yours would do this. Good luck!

Daytimetellysucks · 09/08/2019 17:53

Thanks all!

Our pony isn’t massively interested in his horse to be honest. Pony and our retiree are massively bonded (which causes enough headaches of our own) so he’s a bit of a third wheel.

Went up last night and he was just weird. He was just standing in his horses empty stable waiting for us to get there. Then just stood and stared at us the whole time we were bringing them in and sorting their dinner out. Still standing in there when we left

DD says he gives her the creeps

Going to see a yard tomorrow and another on Sunday. Got our names down on a couple of others so fingers crossed something works out.

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krustykittens · 10/08/2019 19:48

I would get the hell out! He sounds plain nuts. You are never going to enjoy being on the yard and he has no right to be going through your things or demanding that you buy stuff from him. Fingers crossed you get somewhere. Good livery yards are really hard to find.

Honeyroar · 10/08/2019 19:51

He does sound a nightmare! I'd move.

RandomMess · 10/08/2019 19:53

Leave ASAP!!!

PrayingandHoping · 10/08/2019 20:01

Definitely leave!

But your OP says you are on full livery not diy.... so not sure why the onus is on you to turn your horse out when it suits him? If he's being paid to do it then surely he can work it out?

But of course you can bring your own horse in to ride whenever you want. How ridiculous

Daytimetellysucks · 10/08/2019 20:43

Thanks

Sorry, didn’t mean full livery - I meant we were paying in full for 2 x livery. Not discounted or anything. We’re on DIY.

We’ve been to look at a new yard - loved it. All systems go as soon as I can book a lorry

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countrygirl99 · 10/08/2019 22:31

Good luck at the new yard

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