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Trying to nab a horse....a few complications! Long!

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Bonkey · 17/06/2014 21:52

Long one! Warning!

Right, from the beginning.....
In Feb a girl turned up at my yard (not big just me, the owners and one other) - she had bought a cob colt of her friend (colt was already here). She is 18. She arrived and talked a good talk, we all thought she was legit.

Roll on a few weeks and we all suss that she does indeed talk a good talk but thats as far as it goes - she locked this poor colt in the stable , top door shut as well and left him to it. He climbed the walls until the owners decided enough was enough and let him back out. I will add here that this colt has been abused, has a fear of men, and was pretty much un-handled.

After this main incident said colt was left to his own devices in the field...I think he scared her and she had no idea what to do with him.

In April she turns up with a ex-racehorse. Hmm
Beautiful boy, 5yo, out of racing for a month or two.
She has sold her colt to her 'friend' sugardaddy and paid £300 upfront for him with a agreement to pay £100 every month until he's paid up (£850 in total) .
And then the drama starts...

Her first issue was getting on - she couldn't.
Her non horsey bf was trying to give her a leg up but rather than jump on she seemed to just hang off the side for a few seconds before she dropped down. She did this a number of times. She said that he ran off or bucked when she got on.
The occasion that I witnessed was her trying this in a small yard - she hung about 5 times - horse walked forwards and got very confused. I told her to stop messing about and if she was going to get on then get on. I legged her up - something happened and she ended up standing on the floor whilst the horse ended up side down on the floor. I swear she kicked him forwards into the wall to prove a point and got off before he fell!

Second issue - she slaps him. We have nicknamed her 'slapper'. Its been heard the other side of the yard. I am going to stress - he is not a fizzy horse on the ground - he is incredibly gentle and loves a cuddle. He turned his nose to her once and she slapped him away. He moves his leg and slap.

Third issue - this is what started the current events.
A week ago Friday she bought him into his stable - her reasons were that the buttercups were irritating him. The owner topped the buttercups in his paddock that day and raked them up for her. He spent from Friday until sunday eve in his stable without any hay from her and without any water. Between us all we kept him going with hay and water as best we could. She didn't show her face at all during this time.
He was weaving at the back of his stable - legs were going aswell. He was biting his tongue. His weight (which was not the best anyway) dropped dramatically. I have never in my life seen a horse so stressed in a stable - especially one who is used to being in. He went out into a bigger paddock with lots of buttercups in the end Hmm

In the last week I have completely fallen in love with him - I should have stayed detached the bloody thing crept up on me and I am hooked!! Also in the last week I have been taking a proper look at him. His feet are in a awful state - he is underweight (which is impressive considering the time of year, the fact he is out mostly 24/7, and has hardly any exercise) . She had the farrier out 4 weeks ago and all he did was take off his back shoes ... when I looked last week it was blatantly obvious to me he was very sore on these feet and his front feet needed some attention - one front shoe was very loose. She put his rug on in the middle of the week - a turnout rug in the heat!!! He was drenched in sweat. She hasn't been down all weekend again.... I would dread to think how he will be in winter if he is like this now.

I could go on but I am hoping you get the jist....

On Friday I contacted the woman who had sold him to her and informed her of what was going on - she wasn't best pleased and met with me down the on Monday without this girl knowing. I told her I was very interested in taking him on, let her see him for herself. Her words were 'thats not the horse I sold a few months ago' . By the time she left I am confident she would be happy for me to buy him providing she could sort the issue out with money.
Turns out the girl has paid up £500 - owner has said she came down for a spot check and said his condition was poor and his feet were a mess. Girl said that she wasn't struggling and the farrier is due. Hmm

She came to the yard this morning and despite the fact that he has no back shoes and a loose front shoe - proceeded to lunge him. I left not long after she started - didn't trust my tongue. I get a call 20mins later from the yard owners oh saying that he twisted his loose shoe off and managed to puncture his hoof with a nail, she was sure there was a hole and it was bleeding.
Girl had a hissy fit, cried, said the owner was going to take him off her, and then left without treating his foot.

I called the owner and informed her of what had happened and have since sent her photo's. She asked me to pop a poultice on which I couldn't manage in the end as sods law - I get a phone call from the school saying my son had fallen over and needed to be seen. I will do it first thing if its still not been done.

So, here's my dilemma: (Big 'ol applaud if you have got this far!)
What do I do now?
Yard owner isn't best pleased because if all the drama but he did seem to be on my side, but I repeat not best pleased - either way I don't think this girl will be allowed to stay for much longer.
Girl is a twat.
Horse is a love but very un-happy and not being treated well. I could make him well and then start with some decent schooling and training as oppose to her 'lets canter round and round the fields for no reason' approach

Do I step back? I did wonder today if I was pushing it a bit too much..I haven't spoken to the girl but I have stated a serious interest to the owner. I am guessing the girl may have realized i want him by now. Do I leave it now and wait it out? Owner has said that she will let me know by the end of the week- did I do the right thing calling her today when he punctured his foot?
I may want him but ultimately I want him to be well looked after and happy - if the girl gave him this there wouldn't be a issue, likewise if the owner took him back - i'd be a bit gutted but its life...as long as he is safe and well. He deserves a ton more than he is getting now!

I have wondered about speaking to the girl and seeing if I can be logical to her (she isn't logical - complete drama queen but I can but try??) . I would happily offer her and shortfall that the owner offered on a buy back (owner mentioned that she would offer £300 back taking £200 for getting him up together). I can keep a level temper and hopefully make her realize that she is out of her depth - or is that just rude?
I would have to contact her somehow to make sure she was there at the same time as I was...

Can I do anything else?

Any advice good or bad taken on board - I am getting confused in my own head wondering if I am doing the right thing .

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Bonkey · 06/07/2014 16:57

Oh blimey FlockOfTwats sounds horribly similar!
I haven't had a confrontation with her yet...no point in my eyes with her. I don;t think she would care.... and probably out gob me

Not much to report here apart from that she is back riding him - in a treeless saddle with no decent pad underneath so she is sat right on his spine.
I saw her get on the other day and she landed like a sack of potatoes on his poor back - he shot forward and out of the yard - she barely hung on but I think ;pride would stop her from admitting anything so off she went.

Argh!

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Bonkey · 07/07/2014 22:18

Update!!!!

I have had a text..'Is your offer for 'X' still on the table?

I am meeting her tomorrow morning to talk!!

Fingers crossed !

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FlockOfTwats · 08/07/2014 00:02

Ohhh! Update us when you've spoken!

Oh my @ The treeless saddle. I've used one before but with a huge, thick western type saddle pad. I didn't find them all that though and prefer a good western saddle.

Ive had the new horse on our yard all weekend, the girl went away and asked if i would look after him. She's still not been coming down in the mornings though. The rest of us are now taking bets on whether she will move him to her other yard or just give him up. She seems to enjoy having him at ours because its close to home and she can show him off to her mates by riding him to their houses. If she rides in the school she rides for five minutes then asks if i want to and leaves me to school him while she texts on her phone.

todayisnottheday · 08/07/2014 00:05

Great news! Fingers crossed for tomorrow Smile

Bonkey · 08/07/2014 20:27

She didn't show.... Hmm
Got a text this mornings saying that she couldn't make it down because of some reason with her daughter.

I have told her to let me know if she still wants to talk and will leave it at that.

I won't be messed around no matter how much I want him but we will see....

The waiting is a bitch!

Flock I'm not keen on them myself - just prefer traditional but I do know that you can't ride on the horses bloody spine! Angry

And its a slippery slope - that horse will creep up on you and thats it - you are screwed Wink

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FlockOfTwats · 09/07/2014 00:29

Oh no! I hope something is sorted soon. Has she not been down at all???

todayisnottheday · 09/07/2014 09:52

Oh goodness what a silly woman! Hope she comes to her senses!

FlockOfTwats · 10/07/2014 22:56

Any news OP? Im checking daily for updates on twattyhorsegirl-gate.

The girl on my yard buggered off yesterday, no idea where to, didnt say she was leaving. I think its because the YO has been asking her to feed the horse properly. Dead unreasonable ya know.

Her stable is empty now though so that means i can look for something on loan for me to ride.

Bonkey · 11/07/2014 09:58

No, sorry.
I am playing a waiting game because I do think (tries not to get to ahead of myself) .... that she has lost all interest and according to the grapevine of horse people gossip has booked in to have her lips done in Aug

As I type this I have a text 'I have decided to let him go' - watch this space - fuck me - my nerves can't take it!

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buggerboooo · 11/07/2014 10:08

Good luck!

todayisnottheday · 11/07/2014 11:36

Oh good luck!

Bonkey · 11/07/2014 11:50

Meeting her tomorrow - lets see if she shows up this time Hmm

Flock Shocking that someone should feed their horse - shocking! Hmm I hope the horse is ok and she plucks up her ideas!
Good luck with the loan hunt!

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Em1503 · 12/07/2014 12:24

I've just read this whole thread, just wanted to say good luck and I hope you get him, he sounds lovely and like he needs somebody just like you to care for him!

Bonkey · 12/07/2014 17:41

I GOT HIM!!!

She milked it and dragged it out but she took my money!!!

He's mine!!

Woooohooooooo!!!!

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Bonkey · 12/07/2014 18:03

From his racing days - no decent pic today - stupid flies!

Trying to nab a horse....a few complications! Long!
Trying to nab a horse....a few complications! Long!
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Pixel · 12/07/2014 18:44

Bloody brilliant!! Isn't he beautiful Smile.

Bonkey · 12/07/2014 18:55

Isn't he just.
I would be jumping around the room if it wasn't for the fact that I am sure I have a bug coming and it wasn't so bloody hot!

Fingers crossed that no major damage has been done by her and we can just relax for a while!

Vet, physio, and farrier on the cards asap!

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todayisnottheday · 12/07/2014 20:45

What fantastic news! Smile lucky lucky pony!

FlockOfTwats · 12/07/2014 20:55

Omg yay! What happened in the end? Was she alrught about it?? Hes lovely, lucky man.

Bonkey · 12/07/2014 21:14

She gave me a little performance on how she didn't want to let him go and would I loan. I said no, not interested in a loan...which I'm not. But she was't serious.

There were tears and 'he's the best horse Ive ever had' and 'I know its the right thing to do but when I see him I miss him' and then she took the money.
She did mention that she wanted to do a fun ride with him on the 27th yeh right and could she borrow him for the day - ha! The answer was no not that she would have taken him anyway, shes scared shitless . But there is no fucking way she is getting on him again! Ever!

I honestly don't think she gives a shit - just a actress who thinks she is fooling everyone - I humoured her, am not fooled! Hopefully now she will stay away!

Have messaged 'owner' and apart from what I have told her she knew nothing so twatface had just potentially sold something that wasn't entirely hers.....owner is pleased and is popping over next week so I can pay him up and get his passport.

I have him, its done!
Yet to tell DH.... Wink

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Pixel · 12/07/2014 21:30

Ha ha, my mum was given a horse once (we already had him on loan at weekends) and it took her three weeks to tell my dad Grin.

Bonkey · 12/07/2014 21:40
Grin

Need to approach it in a sensitive way that makes him think this is not costing a penny Wink .

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Bonkey · 13/07/2014 17:22

Twatface is horse shopping Angry

Honestly I swear if she gets another to fuck up I may not be responsible for the fact that I may shove horse shit all over her overly made up face!

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FlockOfTwats · 13/07/2014 23:44

FGS!! Angry

GothMummy · 13/07/2014 23:57

Oh well he is really handsome, but Im sorry that she is already looking for another horse.
What is it with horsey people these days?
There's so many people round here like the girl you describe.
Also, lots of horses round here seem to change hands for literally next to nothing (and that small amount is usually paid in monthly instalments) or free, and do the rounds of all the DIY yards, just getting in worse condition/behaviour.

I dont remember all this nonsense in the 1980s. I do remember very strict yard owners who would ruled the yards with an iron rod though.

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