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Nag shopping
DolomitesDonkey · 30/03/2013 16:38
I can't post on fb because my husband will read and lynch.
I've contacted someone about a nag up near Rotterdam. About 17hh, grey mare, 7 years old.
Also seen a Z 4 yo for only 2500 euros. Sooooo many hosses. 
Booboostoo · 31/03/2013 08:02
Do you need two more? Are you looking for a horse with a bit of experience or a youngster?
Personally I make a list of my requirements and stick to it otherwise it's easy to be tempted by everything that is out there.
DolomitesDonkey · 31/03/2013 08:42
I don't have any at the moment 
and I need one. ;) I'm looking for a youngster or a "problem" so actually not really interested in the colt aside to note it's most definitely a buyer's market. There are some extraordinarily well-papered nags out there going for metaphorical peanuts.
catinboots · 31/03/2013 08:46
I'm nag shopping at the moment too!
But I accidentally came home with a stunning Section A last week for DS2 
What are you looking for?
DolomitesDonkey · 31/03/2013 08:49
No, I live on the continent so only searching here.
Booboostoo · 31/03/2013 08:57
Oooh you do need one if you are horseless! Dh has no grounds for a lynching then! :)
Breed, size, job you want to do with the nag, preference mare/gelding?
For a youngster I'd go do the rounds of the sports breeders either in Holland or Germany depending on what breed you like and what discipline you want to bring him/her on for. You should have an enormous amount of choice of 3 year olds and perhaps 4 year olds as well.
If you are happy to bring on a youngster I'd stay away from problem horses. With a problem horse you'd have to start with all sorts of veterinary investigations to rule out a physical problem and then you'd still be left with a behavioural issue. Why not spend the money and time on bringing on a nice youngster instead?
catinboots · 31/03/2013 09:08
'Problem' horses are usually nice horses with 'problem' owners no?
I've had some cracking 'problem' horses bought from idiots
Booboostoo · 31/03/2013 09:17
Who knows? At least I can't tell from one visit, if OP can tell the difference then a 'problem' horse is indeed the way to go as it wouldn't be a problem but a massive bargain. If it's really a problem though then it becomes her problem which is a lot worse than somebody else's problem!
DolomitesDonkey · 31/03/2013 09:51
I'm kind of with cat in believing the majority of problem horses are in fact owned by people who can't ride or do groundwork. 
Also whatever I get will have 5* vetting and x-rays which I hope would help rule out a lot of problems.
I like Hanoverians although tbh am falling over decent warm bloods here as am in holland on the border of Germany and Belgium. Can't swing a cat for hitting incredible bloodlines and the zangersheide stud is only 20 miles away.
I want an all rounder really, will not be doing Grand Prix. Needs to not bite or kick children. Needs to suffer a lorry without too much drama and I want one which doesn't have a stroke if it hears an engine.
Everything else can be fixed.
Booboostoo · 31/03/2013 14:50
Ah see I have failed to improve any of my horses, they have all become worse with my riding!!!
I have a Hanoverian by Don Frederico out of a Warkant mare, very nice moving but annoyingly nappy - do you want him?!!!!!!!!!!!! Just joking!
Why not look for some lines you like and see what comes up, there should be huge choice at the studs.
catinboots · 31/03/2013 18:32
Yep 5* vetting and temperament are the most important things IMHO.
Saying that, I didn't get little Welshy vetted
He's coming pretty much straight off the hillside though, and I paid next to nothing for him.
Plus he's got the teeny tinyest ears you've ever seen and huge big froggy eyes
catinboots · 31/03/2013 18:33
Proper jel of you being on the continent being surrounded by all those bloodlines OP 
DolomitesDonkey · 01/04/2013 12:23
I didn't get my Haffie vetted - took a punt and he was as solid as houses. No vetting on earth would've told me he was a little bucker. He bucked when I rode him when I went to look so I knew what I was getting.
Got the Hanovarian vetted and it didn't work out. Pah.
Anyway - fab news, out of the blue about an hour ago my husband said "if you feel you need another horse then it's fine by me". :D
DolomitesDonkey · 01/04/2013 13:11
Just had a look at the problem horses page and am crying with laughter at the prices people are asking. 5k for a "problem", 2k for "lame"? Bwahahaha.
catinboots · 02/04/2013 08:37
Makes you larf doesn't it!
Dreamers.
Nice 3yr old coloured mare on there though, for a pittance.
Am tempted 
DolomitesDonkey · 02/04/2013 08:54
ha! She was the only one I thought might be worth a punt too!
I just don't get it at all. I'm not saying they're all perfect over here either - the things people try and pass off as Welsh D's would be laughed back across the Severn Bridge. They do a decent warmblood here - anything else? Pah.
Mind you I'm seeing here dross for 2k and good stuff. Seems there are a lot of chancers - and, a lot of people who haven't got a clue and are happy to dig deep. My fave horse from my old yard went not long ago for 6k - at LEAST double what he was worth because he wasn't all that and a net of hay!
DolomitesDonkey · 02/04/2013 08:55
To put it in to perspective - was looking at a well papered 5 year old Lusitano stallion yesterday, for
Booboostoo · 02/04/2013 10:02
Well its fairly reasonable that people know what they breed.
If you want a native it's probably counter-productive to look in Germany, but for a whole host of WBs like Hanoverians, Holsteiners, Traknherners, Oldenburgs, etc. Germany is the place to be.
We are very close to Spain so PREs are ten a penny here and 5k for a Luso would be considered very expensive...although they do sell to foreigners for a lot more!
DolomitesDonkey · 02/04/2013 10:06
booboo That's interesting about your local prices for PREs! You would die then if I told you a friend paid 12k (euros) in 2008 for a green one... I suppose if you've your heart set on one it would make sense to drive down to Spain with a box and fill it up !
Booboostoo · 02/04/2013 13:13
Yes, that's definitely the thing to do, the studs are full of youngsters. My vet picked up a stunning 5 year old, with really good paces (esp for a PRE) and a lovely temperament, for 3k. They are teaching him to work on a longer lower frame and he should be great for next year.
Loads of UK based people pay enormous amounts of money for PREs from Spain/Portugal - I don't know what they are thinking really.
Carl Hester said Valegro, Nip N Tuck, and a 4 year old he showed at the BD convention were all under 10k each, although he does seem to buy large-ish numbers of youngsters together (Nip N Tuck was BOGOF for another one he wanted which he then mistakenly sold on thinking it was the unwanted one!).
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DolomitesDonkey · 10/04/2013 05:45
No, I'm never interested in spammers, but thanks for the offer. Were you planning on shipping from Nigeria?
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