products for people ok to use on pony

[booksinbed]

Hi There - trying to save cash ..Im aware sudocream good.Any other products recommended.eg instead of expensive mane and tail conditioner- etc - baby oil???etc.thankyou x

"I wouldn't use washing up liquid.......... it is responsible for gender-bending in fish."

I don't think it is you know.

seeker You are wrong. In her opening post she states that she is looking for alternatives to "horse products", then on Wed 10-Oct-12 08:46:28 she asks what she can use for "itchy skin".

If you're OK with people putting any old shit on their horses that's fine, but I actually don't agree with it and tbh I don't care if I get your back up by calling on this issue.

OP hasn't got a fucking clue and is one tin of furniture polish/kettle de-scaler away from being an RSPCA case. How long before she asks if it's OK to give her horse bread & cornflakes? :(

She asks for alternatives. She doesn't say she is using anything.

And you are over reacting in a very ignorant and offensive manner.

For your information Seeker: endocrine disrupting chemicals

And I am with Dolomites on this. Booksinbed has no clue about horse management and wlefare and has asked questions about very basic management issues that any horse owner should already know. It worries me that she may be harming her horses through sheer ignorance. And spraying furniture polish on manes is a really good way of getting the stuff in a horses eyes (wtf would anyone need mane detangler anyway, just use a brush/comb confused]).

ERM.... All my ponies eat bread.....

Do they have it with butter and marmite though Saggy?

Marmite sometimes. Its meant to repel flies! They have been known to have it buttered too. A friend used to work in a cafe, and bring us the stale leftovers. Occasionally a few slices were buttered.

Dd's pony likes twiglets and fruit pie. Apparantly Arabs are known for liking odd things to eat,

I use mane/tail detangler alot - it makes life a lot easier and means that I'm not forever pulling hair out when brushing. I have ridden/owned horses for 30 years and consider myself perfectly competent. I take care when spraying anything round my horse's face, I cup his eyes with my hand every time so there's no chance of harm.

I think you're being a bit harsh on Books - she's asking for advice, and the answers don't have to be quite so sarky. Rather than shouting at her why not say gently that it's probably better not to do such and such until you have more experience of your horse.......

I quite agree. booksinBed admits that she has a lot to learn and constantly asks for advice. She asked for tips on human products that might be cheaper, a very sensible question. Human products are cheaper than pet products pretty consistently. There are many people products thAt would be quite suitable. At no point did she suggest putting oven cleaner or cillit bang on them. Novice as she is, she strikes me as having quite enough common sense and concern for animal welfare to work out that that might be wrong. Fairy liquid and furniture polish are used across the horse world. I know turnout professionals that use old fashioned blue bag, (a clothes washing product) on greys. I've read plenty of books that recommend applying engine oil into soles to prevent snow sticking. It's not that unusual.
BooksInBed is asking for advice and support here in the tack room. Being rude and obnoxious to her could well scare her away. Off to keep her horses without the help of all of us for information. This isn't the DogHouse. Lets try and keep it that way?!

On a lighter note, Dfriends pony loves oranges and banana skins! He has been known to cross the road for. Banana skin!

Well said saggy. Dolomites, your response was rude and unnecessary. And yes I know you don't care what anyone else says .........

Mine enjoy slurping coffee or tea over the shoulder of some poor unsuspecting soul who leans agains their stable door with mug in hand.

No, i don't care a jot if you think it was rude.

Personally I think it's "rude" to encourage someone clueless into potentially unsafe practices. I like animal welfare to be taken seriously and yes, there is always someone on the yard to tell you what to do and I pray to god she's got real life guidance!

I think that you will find that nobody has suggested anything unsafe. I've used fairy oneself more than once, and furniture polish was on the mane and tail. Totally different from coat hair. You seriously think that there is anything less horrible in horse based products?? I don't! Benzyl benzoate was banned because it was carcinogenic. Sheath cleaner has the grease removing properties of swarfega! Like I said, nobody has suggested anything remotely dangerous, and poor Books has more than enough sense to work it out for herself!

I think you'll find Dolomites that everyone on here has animal welfare at heart. I would never dream of doing anything with or to my horse that put him at risk, nor would I advise anyone else to do so. How do you know that the advise at the yard would be any different?

Books posted last week asking "how to promote a horses well being. I really want to look after her properly" and was recommended the BHS horse care course, and several books - it doesn't sound to me like she wants to hurt her horse which is why she's asking lots of questions. Give her a break, give her credit for admitting she needs help and let's hope she hasn't been frightened away.

Can I reccommend 'The Doghouse' topic? You'd fit in a treat over there!

I did my housework yesterday so haven't got any furniture polish for mane detangling unfortunately - anyway dhorse has fetching mud ringlets atm which will stay in until I can wash him - water only, I promise......

Maybe I could use my Polti Vaporetto on my dearest grey beastie? bog of eternal stench Thats got to be better than all those nasty chemicals?

After you with that Saggy, my "grey" beastie is a fetching shade of poo green as he will insist on lying in it in the stable - I think because it's warm....gross creature! It's certainly not for lack of space as it's 14' x 14' and he's 12.2h.

Dd's grey looks as if she's on 40 a day- her mane and tail are nicotine yellow!

When we show the grey/white, it takes 4 baths. One three days before to get rid of the deep ingrained grease. One the next day to get her clean. One on show day, because she knows what's coming and gets the runs, and another for her tail and legs once you get there, because by this point she has explosive diahorrea, and it has pooled in her travel boots in the trailer, and the rest has ricocheted off the back ramp onto her arse!
When we get her in the ring, and people ask "how did you get her so white?" I just laugh hollowly, and mutter something about trade secrets!

All the land round here is clay so dpony spends most of his time masquerading as a dingy orange colour and only gets properly cleaned when he's being ridden. Luckily he's more a companion/pet than anything so doesn't get cleaned often. Dhorse who is dark bay is a pig, he digs wallows and kneels in the mud so he can get it all over his face, and then he rubs it in until it's absolutely caked. Despite wearing a longish turnout rug he seems to "lift up his skirts" so that he can get the mud right up his shoulders and backend. He is the dirtiest horse I have ever had, and it takes hours to get him properly clean. When it gets cold enough he has his balaclava (snuggy hood) in an attempt to keep the worst off, but he still gets it everywhere!