Tongue over the bit- help!

[monsterchild]

My horse is a master at getting his tongue over the bit. I have had to change him from a snaffle to a rather high ported curb to ride. The problem is that I am not a good enough rider to feel confident riding in this bit!

I looked at the wrot of rubber tongue gag things to put on the bit but that looks like a nightmare to have in your mouth.

does anyone have an experience dealing with this, and have any suggestions?

I have tried:
to put the bit higher in his mouth, it didn't work,
buckling the cavesson tight, but his reaction to that was also bad, and I have always been told that a tight cavesson is bad. (and as he wasn't his happy self, I saw evidence of that)
riding in a jumping hackamore, but I just don't have the precision I would have with a snaffle. For trail rides it's fine, but for flat work it's very clumsey and I am hauling him around too much.

Any suggestions are welcome!

I'm in New Mexico, so most of the bits here are more western oriented. Which is fine, really, a good vaquero style bridle horse is something to watch!

I'll check into the neue schule bits, and I'll see what I can find from friends as well. I have never heard of a bit bank here at all. But I really do appreciate the insight.

Chances are your horse has a fleshy tongue and finds it uncomfortable. It is dangerous if your horse gets his tongue over the bit - you end up with no steering and no brakes. A high ported pelham does not always work either.

Speak to one of the bit bank people and find out what they recommend. They also have clinics around the country and may have one near you.

Remember the value of a half halt. And a half halt is not pull and then keep pulling ... !!! Remember to let go and, if necessary, do another half halt.