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Treblesallround · 22/08/2012 15:33

After months of indecision GD has finally gone to try out living with her mother. It seems to be going OK, so the time has come to part with her pony. I've found nice, experienced people who like the pony a lot, who are very much on the same wave length as me (and the girl rides well enough to do it) about how she needs bringing on now and GD took to them and we can keep in touch.

They'd like her on loan with view to buy in the Spring if they're in a position to, and if GD is still with her mother (initially just wanted loan but they've spotted her potential). They've offered references for the girl she's for from the riding school where she works (excellent school, it's where GD started and I know the owners), we will visit the mother and her horses at their yard, and will do a BHS loan agreement. They also understand that I need to get to know them reasonably well before she moves, and that we'll want to visit.

I really just want you all to reassure me that this sounds like it could work out, and also to get some practical views. Should we agree the price for potential purchase now, or leave it till we decide whether to sell? If they are as good as they seem then they will add value to the pony: if she comes back I'd be prepared to split the profit but if they want her I think we should sell at what she's worth now.

Any advice?

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horseylady · 22/08/2012 17:53

Yes Agree a price based on what the pony is worth now not what it could be worth or could lose. Sounds reasonable and so long as you're happy that's all that matters. Gut instinct plays a big part!! Having just put my pony in Loan it's hard ((hugs))

booksinbed · 22/08/2012 18:15

Hi Trebles - its books.This must be hard for you i know you love that pony and gd... and the times you have had.

As you know ive recently bought a cob- not as good as your conemara potential wise- but it was on loan with view to buy.I think it will work - there seems to be in lot in your favour - nice folk ,references ,you know the yard etc and a firm loan agrement. .trust your gut. It was positive both ways for us .. as the prev owner of my cob saw that i was going to really love her,kept in touch ,came to stable etc, and it reasured me that i had time to decide etc ....The people seem nice and it will give you the opportunity to look at the situation in a managable fashion rather than under time pressure....

.I did some schooling -of sorts !!!- with my cob - and continue to do so as you know -i wouldnt have added any value -!!but i did agree price at begining i just paid what she was valued at at the time of the new situation.Perhaps you should discuss this with them if it feels right..

..im not sure what you mean if she comes back you could split the profit - do you mean that you would maybe sell her to someone else if the girl does want to buy her and as the girl has added value give them some cash ???...my dd increased value of a pony - we were well aware of this, and we knew that this was keeping pony both schooled, fit,won competitions , and improved in its range and that in itself was a good thing for pony and rider - if we had been in this situation we wdnt expect any increase in value to be linked to us in financial sense as the loan and enjoying the pony would be the thing we wanted and enjoyed.I personally would not expect any priofit linked to work my dd had done ... but i guess its different as there was no way we could afford to buy the pony anyway as it was in the 8.,0000 mark

.What i can say tho is we have had good experience of a loan to buy situation - it worked well-.but im unsure re the price side of things.

In addition ,the loan with view to buy secures her for your gd should she change her mind and gives you time to adapt.Is 6 months sufficent time ?? You could extend if not ...I think that it is important that you have the chance to test things out, and it is on loan with the VIEW to buy so you are given some time to visit etc and do what you need to do whilst keeping the pony fit and well...all the very best xxxsorry if this a bit rushed going on hols tomorro but wanted to reply..

booksinbed · 22/08/2012 18:18

when i said i just paid what she was worth in the new situation - i meant to say we paid what she was valued at at begining of loan agreement.however she will not really increase in value ..what horsey says seems good sense to me and reflects what we did in sim sit ..

Treblesallround · 22/08/2012 18:32

I wondered about putting the agreed price into the loan agreement, ie at the end of the agreed period then they can either a)extend loan subject to agreement b)return horse or c)buy at £x. I suppose I'm just wanting to be sure that we're being fair if they add value but don't buy but I suspect booksinbed is right

Thanks for the hugs and sympathy both, this is a really tough time for us and it helps a lot

How's the schooling going books? Are you trying the stuff I suggested?

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Mirage · 22/08/2012 18:32

I've been thinking about you and wondering how it was going.If it were me,I'd agree a price now,because with the best will in the world,things could go either way.She could be wonderfully schooled and come on in leaps and bounds,but equally,could end up with bad habits at the end of the period.

It does sound as though you've done all you could to find good loaners,and providing they keep to your agreement,it sounds a very sensible idea-if your GD does come back,she can still have her pony.

We had a little pony on loan and absolutely kept to the letter of our agreement,not a stray polo passed his lips and we were in almost daily contact with his owners and it was a really good experience for both parties.We are still good friends with his owners and saw him yesterday.

Treblesallround · 22/08/2012 18:36

Oh, and I'm not really illiterate, don't know why I made such a hash of the thread title Blush

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booksinbed · 22/08/2012 18:59

You most welcome trebles.And yes ive been doing lots of what you said!!!! You such a support - feel like i can just say what i want without feeling foooolish!!!!!!thank goodness.Lots of walk in school and had lesson last night learning to brace seat prior to stop as the lst aid to stop not rein, and i seem to use a lot of voice!!!( naturally talkative or sing when happy) which she seems to like...dd hates it when i sing !!.i went for hack today by self tho and she went into fast trot on way back but i did a lot of firm then v firm give and take and after a min she stopped - didnt know what else to do.i remembered not to just pull.........off to see her now!!!- i seem to want to just sometimes lead her round the school in head collar and lead rope - i dont know why - it just feel companiable...

.Hope loan work out well for you ...

Alameda · 22/08/2012 19:03

it must all be very difficult, am I allowed to offer a quick hug while nobody is looking? x

frostyfingers · 22/08/2012 21:19

It sounds like you've made a really good arrangement, and to agree a price now rather than later sounds sensible. Did you have a figure in mind? I hope it works out well - will you be able/want to visit the pony?

Best of luck to you all, I know it's been a hard time and hope it works out ok. Can you keep an involvement with a horse/pony or is that it when GD's pony goes back? I hope you can, as they are such good therapy. Good luck.

Treblesallround · 22/08/2012 22:02

Thanks all, and yes, hugs are very welcome. Frosty, no danger of no horsey time, DH and I both have horses and GD's first pony is still on the yard, on loan to a lovely younger girl so still have contact with him. Will miss little Cassie though as she's very sweet and friendly and will keep visiting her.

I do have a figure in mind, we aim to sell her for about £1800 (incl tack) as she's a well put together pony with lovely paces, very straight movement, lovely temperament and an absolute superstar of a hunting pony, but given that she's still not the finished article that feels about right. Hopefully I'm not being unrealistic

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marialuisa · 23/08/2012 07:26

Good luck with it all Trebles and hugs from me too. It sounds like you've really covered everything so fingers crossed it all works out.

£1800 including tack sounds pretty cheap to me but the market is so unpredictable at the moment.

dappleton · 23/08/2012 12:03

Good luck, hope it all goes smoothly.

booksinbed · 27/08/2012 17:42

trebles - our conemara was 2 500 ex tack-as you know she as some ...just to say...

Treblesallround · 29/08/2012 20:10

Well, she's gone. They collected her this evening. I'm sure she will be fine, but time for a large drink I think

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Mirage · 29/08/2012 20:39

[unmumsnetty hugs].It will be all right.You have done as much as you can to enure that she is well looked after and I'm sure she will be.

Alameda · 29/08/2012 21:17

aww massive hugs
Wine? x

booksinbed · 30/08/2012 12:56

massive hugs to you xxhow you doing...?

marialuisa · 30/08/2012 14:41

Hope you're ok. Can say that the first week is the worst but once you hear they are settled it gets a bit easier. Take care.

Alameda · 04/09/2012 09:08

how are you trebles? x

Treblesallround · 04/09/2012 09:53

Hi all, thanks for your support. Pony seems to be settling in well, give or take a couple of issues which seem to be settling down so I'm optimistic that this will work out. Saying goodbye was upsetting, as was clearing her stable. I still miss her, but it is nice to have loads of time for my own horse, who is enjoying the attention, and who has taken to sticking her nose under my arm for a cuddle, which is much appreciated.

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Alameda · 04/09/2012 15:45

aw sweet

I have to bribe mine with polos to let me kiss them, cuddles are very very rare

Treblesallround · 17/09/2012 15:29

Quick update, we went to visit yesterday. Pony's really settled, working nicely, happy and relaxed and well bonded with her loaner, we've agreed the price, and I think they are going to want to buy her. And DH is wondering whether I might like another horse. No idea how that idea got into his mind Wink Not going to do anything till spring, but I am enjoying thinking about it, but am also enjoying having just the two to look after, and the one to one time with my lovely girl.

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Mirage · 17/09/2012 16:29

Awww! I'm glad that it's going well and everyone is happy.And a bit of horse shopping is just the thing to while away the winter evenings.Smile

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