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Which pony - come and help me decide

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ohmygosh123 · 09/07/2012 18:58

I'm looking for a pony and have narrowed it down to two dartmoor mares. Both have different advantages / disadvantages and I can't decide. Any opinions welcome! Can't drag an instructor 5hrs down the country to make the decision for me.

Pony is for a 6 year old as first (lead rein) pony, especially when hacking out. DD confident with animals in a quiet way (been commented on positively) - will still be going to riding school using their ponies, but which has an active pony club (bring your own or borrow).

Both are 6, both have been well handled, and are very good to handle, feet etc. Both have been ridden by young children, both are used to tractors, dogs, sheep, vehicles, good travellers, hacking out on lead rein etc.

Pony 1 - has put on weight as not had a jockey for a bit. A good do-er would describe her well. DD was first child back on in 6 mths, and pony was very calm, but will need reconditioning. Good confirmation - quite a showy little pony. Has done RTW etc with novice kids, used to things flapping in its face etc. Slightly more mischievous, and bit more personality. But is a lead rein pony, or off lead rein with adult walking alongside. She has not been schooled off lead rein as much as pony 2 and will take her cues from the adult arguably more than the child. However lots of ponies from that breeder have progressed with the child, so I suppose there isn't any reason for concern. From a quiet yard, rather like our farm.

Pony 2 - From a bigger yard. Very interested in my DD in a very gently caring way. Seemed to really like her - I got a sense that she would be very, very protective of her. Stood out a mile, compared to other ponies we have viewed on this count. Sounds bonkers I know ...... The only negatives are that she is not quite as good for showing (this is something we want to do), and she is shy (I like shy, gentle horses, but I'm sure that someone will tell me the potential problems). She is quite calm when a tractor goes past her - but you can see her pause / freeze - and seems to be saying - can we just watch it go by please, tell me to keep going and I will. As soon as you tell her to walk on, she does so without any hesitation. There is no skipping of feet, shaking of the head, doesn't screech to a halt, but takes her lead from the handler / rider. When trotting there was a barely discernable flinch. I have had frisky, jumpy, let's panic ponies when I rode myself - and I'm getting no sense of that from her. She hasn't done round the worlds etc and will flinch very slightly at something very clumsy / unexpected, but is very good off lead rein. No problems with walking past dog in boot of car barking to get out. She is from a quiet line, and they just bring them on gently and give them more time, and they have all gone on to do very well in pony club / showing contexts.

DD will be doing pony club - by memory that can involve riding each others ponies. Fine - but if Pony 2 is very quiet and has become very bonded with DD - she may not take kindly to that. Plus I don't want some bratty kid frightening her, and us getting landed with calming her back down again. Any advice on this front? I don't know what pony club does nowadays.

DH's suggestion - have both - we will need a companion anyway - and don't let anyone near Pony 2 and risk spoiling it (unless we are sure they are gentle and calm). But while we have the time for 2, I think that is copping out of making a decision, and means DD won't develop as much of a bond with her first pony.

Please be kind! If I had twins, I'd buy them both, and am genuinely torn. In an ideal world - we'd have the loving nature of Pony 2 in the body of Pony 1 - but that isn't going to happen!

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Snog · 09/07/2012 19:06

I would recommend choosing on temperament not looks for a child's first pony

ohmygosh123 · 09/07/2012 19:14

Yep I agree snog. Thing is they both have good temperaments. I've stood in the field with all Pony 1's field mates - and all are very gentle and well socialised. Pony 1 is still very placid even though I said mischievous - maybe playful would be a better description, and is the more confident of the two.

I would have gone for Pony 1 if I hadn't seen pony 2. Really I guess I'm wondering if a pony can choose a child IYSWIM. The breeder was actually initially recommending a different pony, and was pleasantly surprised at how well DD and Pony 2 seemed to get on.

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Mirage · 09/07/2012 19:48

I'd go for pony 2.My dds go to Pony Club and have never swapped ponies or seen anyone else do so.

I know what you mean about a bond.We've been looking for a pony for DD2 and had seen 20 over 10 months.The last one was a little Dartmoor mare and as soon as I saw DD2 on her,I just knew she was the right one.She is no looker,but I'm not interested in that,I want a safe,reliable child's pony.

Is there any chance you can trial both of them? You may find something which makes the decision easier.

Butkin · 09/07/2012 21:26

Any significant difference in price? What have they both done to date? What did your DD think about the rides they gave her? Which one do you think she preferred?

Our children don't swap ponies at PC and I think the one time I've seen it happen the mother of the pony was asked her permission. If you think this could happen then speak to the Chief Instructor and say that it your pony is not to be ridden by other children.

Backinthebox · 09/07/2012 21:27

Let me get this straight - your DH has said buy 2 ponies, and you are still wondering which one? Grin Without prying too much, would you be able to ride one of them, Dartmoors are sturdy little ponies and can cope with a small adult weight. A friend of mine still rides her daughter's Dartie now the daughter is onto horses, and wouldn't let him go for the world.

If you have to choose between them, your daughter is 6. Decide which one you could leave her in the stable with, let her plod round the field on. Which one she could sit on all day at a show and it never get grumpy. Which one she will be able to take to Pony Club camp and do all the daft things they get up to there. She'll have this pony for a few years - a Dartmoor will carry her easily till she is 12.

As with all things horsey, it's horses for courses. Personally I like the sound of the first one you describe, but it's very difficult to say for certain without seeing either of them. My daughter has only been at Pony Club this year for the first time, but a teenager borrows my little horse and takes him too. At the second rally she took him to they swapped riders, but only in the 16 years plus group.

WRT trials, having sold the odd horse I don't give trials. I do offer to take the horse back if it is found within the first month to be unsuitable. There are too many joyriders out there, and I am always surprised when anyone manages to find a pony they can try at home before they buy. Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith. I have only ever had a hiccup with the one horse we had on trial, bizzarely! It was skillfully drugged and it's legs so skillfully dyed even the vet didn't notice, and we were looking for something really specific we suspected was there! The other ones I paid for on the spot have proved to be fabulous.

ohmygosh123 · 09/07/2012 21:31

Mirage Thank god things have changed! Then again, with the benefit of hindsight, our local instructor was verging on a tally ho nut job.

I did ask about trial - but they've been screwed by people taking ponies for a month's trial in the summer, and then returning them having not treated them well. Also I am at the other end of the country, so I understand why not!

The breeder wasn't sure Pony 2 was suitable, and was intending to sell her to someone older, until she saw how she reacted to DD. She said even if we didn't buy her, it was worth it for her to see a young child on her, and was really proud of her.

I'm just worried that I'm reading too much into a bond, and whether she'd be more nervy away from her home environment, and if freezing and waiting for you to give her confidence could turn into skittishness. Oh for a crystal ball ...

DD preferred Pony 1 for sitting trot (less bouncy) - and like all horsey girls quite frankly would love anything with a mane and a tail!

Arghhh I've got to make a decision ...... maybe my DH will win - one to love and one to show!

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ohmygosh123 · 09/07/2012 21:45

If a Dartmoor could carry me, I'd give it a medal - I'm 5ft 8 and 10 1/2 stone. Although it could probably pull me in a trap Grin!

What kind of daft things do they do now at pony club camp? Pony 1 comes from a place where ponies regularly take part in fancy dress, and her parents will have done .... so presumably she has the temperament for it.

Pony 2 - an angel - stands absolutely still - more so than Pony 1 although probably helped by her natural tendency to stand still if in doubt We took tack off with stable door open - didn't move a muscle. Not sure she'd be ecstatic about something flapping round her head though .......

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50ShadesOfSaggy · 09/07/2012 22:14

Right. Don't think, just answer the question off the top of your head.
Pony 1 or pony 2?
Ask DD the same question. Go with your gut feelings. They aren't often wrong!
Dd is 13 and has been riding since she was 5. She has 5 ponies, 2 ridden and 3 at stud. Her riddens are on a friends yard with 11 others. Some days she rides as many as 5.
The trouble is, and I am going somewhere with this is when the ponies ride differently. If she has hit a wall learning something new, having to ride multiple ponies that respond differently can be a real problem. your dd is only 6, and will have a lot of learning to do, especially when she gets her own pony. If they responds differently to instruction, or for instance, one leans on the bit whilst the other is very light in hand, then there is the potential for real confusion!
Two might seem ideal, and a companion is definitely a good idea, but I'd maybe go for one ridden and one older or retired, two good ponies to keep up to scratch might be a bit much for a 6yo.

ohmygosh123 · 09/07/2012 22:44

My gut feeling - put the ponies in a bag - shake, blend and come out with one pony - honestly - I'm not joking ........ runs off to hide, because everytime I answer the question off the top of my head, I come out with a different answer

With pony 1 she will have alot of fun with and will be the kind you can stick any kid on. With pony 2 she might have one of those real bonds some people are lucky enough to find. However it might go horribly wrong as she is shy.

Off to sleep on it as I am definitely not helping myself. DD isn't much help, as she will always go wtih the last one she saw - especially when that involved a really good long hack.

By the way, the plan for a companion is a brood mare / a retired pony. At no point was I intending on a string of ponies for a 6 year old!!!! (Oh and pony 1 has a lovely older friend in the field we can have on loan - and in an ideal world would be semi-retired - and the friend I fell head over heels for ........)

50Shades - you are quite right - especially as she will keep going to riding school - and will be changing ponies enough there. And is why I want to make a decision .......

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50ShadesOfSaggy · 09/07/2012 23:00

Ok. My gut feeling is pony 2.
Better off lead and a good attitude. Will see your dd far. You don't want want to be finding a new pony because it isn't good enough off lead.
Pony 1 is not so good off lead, and is docile but overweight. At full fitness it could be a nutter, you don't know.
As for being good with other riders, you really want to discourage friends and relatives from having a ride. They can quickly become an unwanted burden, and it's not good for the pony anyway!

richpersoninapoorpersonsbody · 10/07/2012 17:01

Hi can I be mosey and ask the breeding? We (my family) breed dartmoors and there are some lines that don't make good kids ponies and others that do. If you want your child to go off the Lr with the new pony then maybe pony 2 won't work so well if it's naturally shy and timid as it will take it's confidence from the jockey and if your dd is only just off the Lr that might not work.
Also your Dh may have a point about having 2, our dartmoors are used to living as a group - although they mice fields a lot so the group dynamic is constantly changing - if you buy one that is used to living with others having it by it's self might take it some getting used to.

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