How does placing system work for showjumping?

[dappleton]

To those of you that compete on a regular basis this is going to sound like a daft question but I haven't done any showjumping since I was a child and have since forgotton all the rules Please help!!!
So, I understand a clear round gives a place in the jump off and then it's fastest in the jump off to decide placings, however, if placings are to 6th and only 3 go clear in the first round for example how are the placings decided and if faults are accrued how does that affect the placings?
Sorry I know this is a bit of a ramble but I hope you can gather what I am asking - Any advice very gratefully received.

God only knows! I used to get dragged to Towerlands to watch on a regular basis, and I still dont have a clue!

Thanks for your honesty Saggyoldclothcatpuss, at least I feel a bit better about not being the only one to find this all a bit confusing!

Sorry we don't do showjumping just Working Hunter. In the affiliated classes they usually invite the clear rounds and 4 faulters back - enough to more than cover the number of rosettes. I think at smaller shows they all come back. Of course they are going to do their shows rather than jump offs.

I await to hear how it works in SJ!

depend on what they are doing,

If its a clear round, so those with clear rounds get invited to jump a shortened course, which is usually timed for placing.

Id it 2phase, if you have gone clear over the 1st 8 or so you are allowed to continue over the rest and thats usually timed.

However , if its optimum time, then its those clear and closest to the time selected, not necessarily the fastest.

dappleton - round here unaff depends on the venue - some would have the 4 faulters jump off for 4-6 place, others would jump at the chance to only award 3 rosettes and save some cash, yes others would have timed first round and award 4-6 on that, virtually nowhere would have all 4 faulters share 4th - which should be the strict interpretation of some rule variants.

If you haven't sj for ages take care that a refusal is now penalised as a knockdown ie 4 faults not 3 - they changed it at some point during my childbreeding years!!!

Thanks for your replies, that's a bit clearer now, so clear rounds jump off for highest placings then 4 faulters jump off for lower placings. Loshad thanks for the update on change of penalties, I haven't done a SJ comp for 15yrs or more so didn't have a clue about that one!