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Move from state to insependent

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Batshitdoesntfallfarfromthetree · 23/01/2026 15:05

I'm struggling with the behaviour in my current school. Its appalling. SLT do very little to support staff. For example, we set our own detentions for every little thing unless its whats classified as extreme behaviour but even that is open to interpretation. Example, a child tells you to F off, oh it was just the heat of the moment. I hear similar stories from across the state sector. I'm considering making the move to the independent sector. I never wanted to do this, its not why I got into teaching, but my mental health is taking a bashing.
Has anyone else made this move? How have you found it?

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ineedhelp37 · 24/01/2026 05:19

I’m ks1 but I made the move ten years ago and I’ll never ever return to state. I have 18 children and a full time TA. I have double the amount of ppa and an extra 4/5 weeks holiday.

Kepler22B · 24/01/2026 07:17

Teenagers are teenagers so they will be behavioural issues. Some schools are better than others.

Mine is going through a Paul Dix approach, with predictable effects.

But class sizes are smaller, there is less extreme behaviour and my teaching load is less (though you have to put the hours in in other areas).

Batshitdoesntfallfarfromthetree · 24/01/2026 15:25

Kepler22B · 24/01/2026 07:17

Teenagers are teenagers so they will be behavioural issues. Some schools are better than others.

Mine is going through a Paul Dix approach, with predictable effects.

But class sizes are smaller, there is less extreme behaviour and my teaching load is less (though you have to put the hours in in other areas).

Sure they are but the extent of the behaviour I'm sure is different in state v independent. This week I've had an incident of vomiting continuously in class due to alcohol poisoning and another of a boy pummeling another so viciously in class the other boy passed out. These are all in normal lessons. I don't let me classes run wild, in fact I insist on silent classes, but the extremes of behaviour are so anxiety inducing in me. I cant help thinking I will eventually witness a stabbing or similar.

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Batshitdoesntfallfarfromthetree · 24/01/2026 15:26

ineedhelp37 · 24/01/2026 05:19

I’m ks1 but I made the move ten years ago and I’ll never ever return to state. I have 18 children and a full time TA. I have double the amount of ppa and an extra 4/5 weeks holiday.

I wonder if that would be the same post 13

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Kepler22B · 24/01/2026 18:59

Batshitdoesntfallfarfromthetree · 24/01/2026 15:25

Sure they are but the extent of the behaviour I'm sure is different in state v independent. This week I've had an incident of vomiting continuously in class due to alcohol poisoning and another of a boy pummeling another so viciously in class the other boy passed out. These are all in normal lessons. I don't let me classes run wild, in fact I insist on silent classes, but the extremes of behaviour are so anxiety inducing in me. I cant help thinking I will eventually witness a stabbing or similar.

Yes totally different. We get rudeness and entitlement with a lot of gas lighting but very little physical violence. Parent who believe their child can do no wrong and complain very quickly.

Mountaintopp · 25/01/2026 19:42

I've mainly worked in the independent sector and wouldn't ever go back. I'm in secondary and the classes are smaller and no real behaviour issues on the whole. There are different challenges with high expectations from parents who are paying considerable sums of money and expect high returns. I would recommend looking carefully at schools and seeing what's involved and they can differ considerably - boarding schools are very intense and some still have Saturday school and lots expect some weekend commitments for sports fixtures etc. Both day and boarding tend to have longer days than state schools but this also varys widely.

HappilyFreeNow · 23/02/2026 20:59

Longer days but much better holidays, pay, conditions. Behaviour much better.
Would never teach in state now.

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