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Greater Depth year 4 work - white rose

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WhiteAmericanoNoSugar · 27/11/2025 14:33

Please may I know which materials you find useful for children working at greater depth of your school uses White Rose s.o.w.

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ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot · 27/11/2025 21:49

The white rose materials are often challenging in themselves. Classroom secrets can offer a good variety as well.

Della1 · 28/11/2025 19:19

Nrich as extra challenges.

Peridoteage · 02/12/2025 21:58

Ordinary greater depth or do you have a pupil/s in the class who are a bit off the charts? Ime every so often you get a child who is absolutely miles faster at processing maths operations, who simply gets numbers, and this is a different kettle of fish.

Nrich etc will cover the former.

If you have the latter to be perfectly honest the primary curriculum is in all honesty unlikely to challenge them. Its currently very frowned upon to move on and cover material from later on, even if the child is already capable at it.

Peridoteage · 02/12/2025 22:00

The white rose materials are often challenging in themselves

They really are not, for a child who is very able at maths. You will occasionally get one that could at age 8 or 9 outpace many 12 year olds.

WhiteAmericanoNoSugar · 03/12/2025 07:03

The children are gifted in maths, yes. Streets head. But, for example, the CGP Stretch books challenge them but it's not taught in class.

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Crumpt · 03/12/2025 21:20

You sometimes get the odd good problem in the reasoning and problem solving PPT for the unit. They're useful for GD pupils who just need an extra question or two. Grammarsaurus GD is usually sufficiently different that it can provide something thought-provoking for fast, able children.

For children who are a couple of years ahead though, I think you have to just go completely off-piste if you can, which doesn't fit with the current curriculum model. No one would argue an adult would be sufficiently stretched by Y3 level mastery questions coming from different angles to develop mastery so I don't know why we assume very clever children would be.

VashtaNerada · 05/12/2025 03:51

The scheme of learning on White Rose sometimes has some nice challenge questions but I agree it’s not particularly challenging in itself. I’d like to have more challenge in my maths lessons but unfortunately my school is very prescriptive in the way we plan and teach with no opportunity for teachers to adapt to suit their class.

Crumpt · 05/12/2025 06:42

VashtaNerada · 05/12/2025 03:51

The scheme of learning on White Rose sometimes has some nice challenge questions but I agree it’s not particularly challenging in itself. I’d like to have more challenge in my maths lessons but unfortunately my school is very prescriptive in the way we plan and teach with no opportunity for teachers to adapt to suit their class.

That's awful. I'm pleased we've moved towards being allowed to use worksheets/books instead of making everything like we used to but a huge part of teaching is adapting things to your class. It will completely kill the joy of teaching for me if we reach a stage where everything has to be delivered per the scheme.

WhiteAmericanoNoSugar · 01/01/2026 08:11

So what are people doing for the greater depth children then? What do you use?

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