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Has teaching improved? Nervous to return after bad experience 20 years ago

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Woodlandwildling · 13/03/2025 09:58

I was excited to go into art teaching in the early 2000's but left after my first year of teaching. I am now retraining and returning to teach adults and realise, now with all the changes to policies, what a horrendous experience I had. In my first teaching post, I was bullied by the two heads of year that I taught under - a woman, who was a complete so in so and a male who was the same. They hated each other and used me as 'piggy in the middle'.
Neither of them nurtured me as a young teacher. The female head of department jealously guarded her role, students and the role of the teacher that I was providing maternity cover for.

She set out to sabotage my reputation with my students and other staff. Emotionally abused me and ridiculed me in front of students. Her discipline of students I didn't agree with either. I had not been properly equipped by the old-fashioned tutors on my teaching course (who were out of touch with modern teaching) or teaching experience to manage classrooms (I wish I had the standard of training that I know now from being a parent of two and daughter with special needs).
At break times, she ignored me in the staff room and gossiped with another teacher - they were bosom buddies. He never spoke to me and was obviously poisoned by her. She showed me up in front of him also. I felt totally alone, until a lovely teacher noticed and chatted to me at break times. Another teacher noticed I was struggling and supported me in class.

The male head got me to research and write a new GCSE course for the school with very little input, praise or feedback.

By the end of the first term I was regularly absent with recurring viral infections and was off sick when the post ended. I was relieved to move onto a new post, but this first post had shattered my confidence and passion for teaching, I left teaching after another two terms. When my two children started school I felt traumatised to even set foot in their schools! I really did not like waiting around in the playground for them. I expect those two teachers are still teaching at that school, they were imbedded in the woodwork. The female teacher was popular with students and parents, however, no one saw how she treated me, she was a narcissistic bully. I did not realise how bitchy teaching could be in schools before I went into it!

Even some of the interviews I had were conniving and bitchy. One school had a teacher come and talk to the interviewees as we nervously waited in the staff room for our interviews. I saw straight through the ruse right away - she was the drama teacher playing the role of the gossipy teacher - seeing which of us would bite and gossip about our teaching colleagues. Some of the other interviewees fell for it. Then the interview was with two professionals trained in psychological testing. Finally, I got to meet the smug head teacher, who I didn't take to, who told me I'd been unsuccessful but I was a close choice. I had a lucky escape as the school must have had some staffing issues with the rigmarole I had to go through!

In another interview, for a girl's school, I could tell I didn't have a chance from the start as one of the other interviewees was an ex pupil who was very matey with the existing art teacher. The head was lovely and I think was sorry she couldn't give me the post - obviously overruled by the art teacher and the ex pupil who got the post.

OP posts:
Foostit · 13/03/2025 22:56

Teaching has changed over the past 20 years, unfortunately it’s got far worse. The behaviour you mentioned is still common too. There are lots of posts on MN on this subject.

BG2015 · 14/03/2025 07:49

Teaching isn't what it was sadly. I qualified in 1996 and have taught in primary ever since. Kids are entitled, answer back and have little respect (& I teach in a lovely village church school). Parents are no better.
I'm retiring at the end of the school year. Totally had enough.

Fifthtimelucky · 14/03/2025 12:06

There are, unfortunately, bullies in schools but I imagine there are bullies in every type of work place.

Some schools/organisations are better managed than others. I cannot imagine that the sort of behaviour you describe would be tolerated in my daughter's school. She is in her first job as a secondary teacher (she's now in her third year). She has always found her HoD and the senior management team extremely helpful and supportive. She loves the school and is very happy there.

Philandbill · 14/03/2025 22:06

I've been teaching since the early 1990s. It's now by far the hardest it's ever been.

Woodlandwildling · 15/03/2025 07:08

Thank you for all of your feedback and sharing. I will never teach in schools again. I may teach in HE, but will probably work freelance teaching adults art, so I can use the skills I've learnt and not have to deal with the institutions and people in them!

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CurlyKoalie · 17/03/2025 09:37

I have just retired at 61 after 38 years teaching. Luckily I am in a financial position to do so. I realise many are not.
I couldn't stand another term despite an excellent attendance record and good exam results.
All of the issues the original poster quoted as reasons they left teaching previously are still there if not worse.
The final nail in the coffin for me is the increasing number of students and parents claiming extreme SEN and mental health needs. No diagnoses from proper medical professionals like psychiatrists (a psychologist is not the same level of qualification )or opthalmologists (visual strain)
Multiple daily occurances of students internally truanting with the permission of so called pastoral managers labelling students with 'anxiety'.
I am horrified that such poorly qualified individuals can issue students with a label that that turns what in many cases is normal nervousness into a major issue.
This results in lessons being constantly disrupted by students coming and going from the lesson with a 'pass' from the pastoral managers which they wave at you so they can go out for a wander round the site. In the main this is just so they can go to the toilets to use their phones.
Seating plans have to be constantly rearranged to accomodate students who'like to choose their position in the room' or 'dont like certain pupils being near them'
So OP unless you want to do all the things you were doing before you left your last teaching job plus a massive dollop of unsupported social work for some entitled individuals at the expense of the silent majority of well adjusted students, I would stay well away from teaching at the moment if you can.

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