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Nazi salutes in the classroom

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fklps · 07/03/2025 21:26

Anyone else has experienced this? I have had two cases in my secondary school over the last couple of months. Tricky to report as kids will clearly deny it. Very disturbing though. One did it whilst raising their hand to participate, the other to show his pens during equipment check: 15 and 13 yrs old respectively.

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Lucy882206 · 08/03/2025 07:57

I've seen it once - a couple of weeks ago, a Year 11 boy raised his hand in what looked like a nazi salute. He was grinning to another student whilst he did it. Called SLT and had him removed. Obviously denied it 🙄 no idea why he did it though

fklps · 08/03/2025 13:41

Yes, I don't like it and I asked because I was wondering if it was me making up stories. They do it to have a laugh and in a subdued way so it's not entirely evident. It scares me that it may become trivialised.

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CurlyKoalie · 14/03/2025 10:15

Record as a safeguarding concern surely?
Make the child and the parent aware. If it doesn't happen again- no issue.
If it does, especially once the offensive nature of the gesture has been explained, then there is an issue that needs further investigation.
Your school should have a recording system to see how prevalent this behaviour is who is doing it.
Personally I dont think this is something that should be ignored. As to the denials. You are not in a Court of Law. Recording of your perception of the gesture is perfectly valid, indeed Prevent training encourages staff to record low level concerns to look for patterns

FromerGerman · 15/03/2025 07:26

Yes, but I am German and have always taken it as their way to take the piss (together with asking me whether I'm related to Hitler). Obviously inappropriate and I tear into them and make it very clear that this is illegal in Germany. Then I report it and ensure it's followed up, both at home and in school.

fklps · 15/03/2025 16:18

Yes, I went through all the process of recording, reporting and following it up. When it actually happened in the classroom, it triggered me so much, I did use the opportunity to stress the amount of pain that a simple gesture symbolised as it had brought so much pain to humanity.

My school is very toxic and I am leaving at the end of this term. I suppose that the reason why I decided to write about the episode here was to get a feel about what other teachers had seen and to make sure I was not hallucinating. You see, in my school, the leadership team is in constant denial of reality. Behaviour is going in a downward spiral and they insist everything is spick and span.

When I reported it in my school, they said they would ask other students in the class if they had seen the gesture. I knew the student would deny it. He is trouble and is generally on report and always in after school detentions. Despite that, because none of his Y8 peers confirmed they had seen him do the nazi salute, the school dismissed the sanctions I had given, stating they could not do anything about it if no one confirmed it. Basically, my word was taking for granted and the school decided to give more weight to the student's denial.

As you can expect, the school has a very low teacher retention. I only started in September but the point here is that I find it extremely concerning that teenagers believe they can trivialise something like this and, even worse, get away with it. To me, this is unacceptable. I have two sons in another secondary school and know for a fact, how big of a deal it would be if this happened there.

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MidLifeWoman · 16/03/2025 09:36

I am glad you are leaving that school!
It happened to me at a previous school. I am German and my reaction scared the whole class! The boy was in isolation for a day and had to write a letter of apology to me. SLT checked in with me afterwards and I felt supported.

fklps · 16/03/2025 12:54

MidLifeWoman · 16/03/2025 09:36

I am glad you are leaving that school!
It happened to me at a previous school. I am German and my reaction scared the whole class! The boy was in isolation for a day and had to write a letter of apology to me. SLT checked in with me afterwards and I felt supported.

My students were also scared by my reaction. It's good to hear the school supported you and made a statement to prevent it from happening again.

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