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Wanting to leave teaching (bad experiences)

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Esmatoto · 11/11/2024 23:15

Hi all,

Just need a space to vent and maybe others have some similar experiences! Taught for a few years now and loved teaching. This year however is another story altogether. Lack of funding, no support staff, just under a third of the class with needs this includes asd, adhd.

Because I have no permanent TA (we share so I have 1 hour support a day) I have to somehow stretch myself to support all these needs and just physically can't, the SLT response is we just have to train ourselves. A normal day could look like this, I'm trying to teach and I have 3 children (asd) all crying at the same time as something has upset them. One is hitting themselves, then other children start copying these behaviours. Another autistic pupil is completely disengaged and will sit on the carpet just talking or singing to himself, as he used to have 1:1 last year but not enough funding to have one this year. All whilst I stand to try and teach the whole class, feeling helpless I can't help them all.

It's just absolutely mental trying to cope with this all. I try my absolute best and have spoken to SENDO who is actively trying to support but it won't happen quickly as there are many other needs across the school. I just feel like it's a crap time to be working in education.

Then on top of this the parents can be so horrible, a parent approached me to say their child thinks I don't like them and we must validate this child's feelings. And I see other teachers being accused of all sorts and I just think to myself this is so undeserved, parents just believe pretty much anything their told by their kids (not saying they shouldn't ofcourse we'd investigate any accusation) but honestly some of them are so absurd. The career I once loved, and a part of me still does, is being ruined by these experiences.

Rant over! Thank you

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Esmatoto · 11/11/2024 23:26

(Excuse the slight spag errors)

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Foostit · 12/11/2024 23:04

You’re not alone. This is why so many of us have got out or are looking to get out.

Esmatoto · 13/11/2024 18:03

Foostit · 12/11/2024 23:04

You’re not alone. This is why so many of us have got out or are looking to get out.

Yes this! If you were teaching before, may I ask what you are doing now?

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BraOffPjsOn · 13/11/2024 19:52

I feel exactly the same! I’ve also had one excluded today as he hit and kicked staff but it was dealt with badly after and so he thought he was carrying on with the day and going on to an activity with the class where we had to evacuate the others whilst he was told he was going home and as expected he kicked off whereas if we’d known at the end of lunch that was happening, the deputy and I would have calmed him and then taken him to a safe space straight away not let him think he was going the activity and spending half an hour in the classroom with the others!
I cried for him and felt so guilty even though I hadn’t known things would suddenly be changed.

I’m applying for other jobs tomorrow to see what other places are like but I’d love to leave completely!

PrimaryTeacherabc · 13/11/2024 22:30

It's really tough at the moment and seems to be getting more and more difficult. Parents are becoming more unreasonable, children are becoming more emotional and difficult, so many outbursts, so much anger. And the workload is just insane. Will there be any teachers left?

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 13/11/2024 22:49

I feel exactly the same. Pretty much the same where I am. I am completely burnt out. I called the GP in the vague hope I could get signed off but I just got told to suck it up, it’s most likely the menopause, and change jobs if you don’t like it.

Esmatoto · 13/11/2024 23:13

BraOffPjsOn · 13/11/2024 19:52

I feel exactly the same! I’ve also had one excluded today as he hit and kicked staff but it was dealt with badly after and so he thought he was carrying on with the day and going on to an activity with the class where we had to evacuate the others whilst he was told he was going home and as expected he kicked off whereas if we’d known at the end of lunch that was happening, the deputy and I would have calmed him and then taken him to a safe space straight away not let him think he was going the activity and spending half an hour in the classroom with the others!
I cried for him and felt so guilty even though I hadn’t known things would suddenly be changed.

I’m applying for other jobs tomorrow to see what other places are like but I’d love to leave completely!

Ah I feel this! I've got one on the verge of permanent exclusion and we're trying our utmost best to support them, even though the classrooms been trashed many times and chairs have been thrown around. Teaching has become not just teaching but many more things we're reaponsible for it seems!

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Esmatoto · 13/11/2024 23:14

PrimaryTeacherabc · 13/11/2024 22:30

It's really tough at the moment and seems to be getting more and more difficult. Parents are becoming more unreasonable, children are becoming more emotional and difficult, so many outbursts, so much anger. And the workload is just insane. Will there be any teachers left?

I've not a clue but it's definately sad times for teachers right now.

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MN2024 · 13/11/2024 23:43

I totally understand where you’re coming from.

I have been teaching for 8 years now and I’m afraid I really don’t have the same passion for the job as I did back then! I always wanted to progress into SLT and one day become a HT but right now, I really want out!! I don’t enjoy what the job has become and even dread going in some days - unruly kids, unrealistic expectations just to name a few. It got worse when we joined a trust. The salary is ok, could be better though!

I even stepped up as an interim AHT to cover a maternity leave and was offered the permanent role but decided against taking it. The work-life balance as a teacher is poor as it is.

Considering alternative options - I’d be interested in a career in the police force but not sure what role would be right for me.

BraOffPjsOn · 14/11/2024 08:46

Esmatoto · 13/11/2024 23:13

Ah I feel this! I've got one on the verge of permanent exclusion and we're trying our utmost best to support them, even though the classrooms been trashed many times and chairs have been thrown around. Teaching has become not just teaching but many more things we're reaponsible for it seems!

It’s so depressing and nothing is put in place to support the kids or staff.
Then we get the emails saying behaviour needs to improve, the meetings saying writing attainment needs to be higher and you’re just flabbergasted as weve said we can’t teach properly with all the disruption and what the kids are experiencing and we’re fighting fire, throwing tasks at kids whilst you try to keep the ones not coping in the room without flipping out.

Esmatoto · 14/11/2024 17:54

Yes thankyou everyone for sharing your experiences! I'm definitely looking to see what other careers paths I can take without too much of a dip in salary.

It's quite sad really because I love working with the kids so much and think I do a great job, but what can we do hey!

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thehippopotamus · 17/11/2024 15:29

I taught for about twenty years in the UK and then I taught in one or two international schools around the world, mostly in the Middle East. My last big teaching job was in China. Absolutely the best! Not only did the school provide my wife and I with a two-bedroom apartment, but also the school paid our airfares and utilities bills. On top of that, Chinese students are absolutely adorable: very polite, amazingly hard-working and thoroughly charming. I am sorry (but not entirely surprised) that you did not enjoy teaching in the UK. Oh well, the world is a big place. Move on and find a school and a country that is more to your liking.

toobusybee123 · 10/12/2024 18:21

I'm only in my fourth year but have already lost a lot of the enjoyment.

Behaviour continues to worsen, an ever-increasing number of children with additional needs, parents continue to become more demanding and difficult, new initiatives every week that SLT want us to embed into our lessons (oh, and teach an entire curriculum!), continual 'quality assurance' of books, endless meetings, being expected to do all sorts of interventions with students who just don't care enough, and the rest!

Sorry to rant... I've just lost a lot of the love of it

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