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Progression route

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ApprenticeTA2 · 12/08/2024 10:50

Hi there just just wanted to ask a question about progression after qualifying as level 3 ta , I am starting that role in September I have another account where I asked questions but I forgot my password hence the new account . Anyways after I hopefully qualify around August 2026 would I be able to then do the HLTA course which I know is 4-6 months long and awards you HLTA status I would love to do that either on September 2026 however if it isn't possible would it be possible September's 2027 as I would be 19 by then is that to young to be a HLTA?

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Newrumpus · 12/08/2024 19:50

Are you doing a level 3 apprenticeship which starts this September and lasts 2 years? If so, I wouldn’t plan to go straight into HLTA training although I don’t think there is anything stopping you. If I were you, I would
want to get some time served as a qualified TA3, before looking for what’s next. The expectations of an HLTA are quite high and you would need to demonstrate these during your course so I think it would be detrimental to rush into it. However, there are loads of other mini courses that you could do which would you keep you focussed and enhance your expertise.

good96 · 12/08/2024 21:12

There is a lot of responsibility to the HLTA role and in most schools - they line manage the TAs in most schools and also there may be some teaching required..
A 19 year old isn’t going to have enough experience to fulfil that role. I would get the experience first as a TA (ideally in different schools too) so you can grasp a wider insight into the role and speak with the HLTA and discuss your career aspirations and see what development opportunities they can provide.

Also, to elude, age doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things, but you’d only have left school/full time education a year at that point.

As a HT myself, I’d be looking for someone who has a strong track record, a high performing TA who has the ability to take on the additional responsibilities…. No amount of hours in a classroom studying is going to give you the experience!

ApprenticeTA2 · 13/08/2024 04:12

Newrumpus · 12/08/2024 19:50

Are you doing a level 3 apprenticeship which starts this September and lasts 2 years? If so, I wouldn’t plan to go straight into HLTA training although I don’t think there is anything stopping you. If I were you, I would
want to get some time served as a qualified TA3, before looking for what’s next. The expectations of an HLTA are quite high and you would need to demonstrate these during your course so I think it would be detrimental to rush into it. However, there are loads of other mini courses that you could do which would you keep you focussed and enhance your expertise.

Yes I am doing a level 3 apprenticeship starting September , thank you for your advice I will be taking it on board after thinking it over I believe I do definitely need to gain some experience as a general ta before progressing on to that stage ideally 3 years or so

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ApprenticeTA2 · 13/08/2024 04:15

good96 · 12/08/2024 21:12

There is a lot of responsibility to the HLTA role and in most schools - they line manage the TAs in most schools and also there may be some teaching required..
A 19 year old isn’t going to have enough experience to fulfil that role. I would get the experience first as a TA (ideally in different schools too) so you can grasp a wider insight into the role and speak with the HLTA and discuss your career aspirations and see what development opportunities they can provide.

Also, to elude, age doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things, but you’d only have left school/full time education a year at that point.

As a HT myself, I’d be looking for someone who has a strong track record, a high performing TA who has the ability to take on the additional responsibilities…. No amount of hours in a classroom studying is going to give you the experience!

Thank you for your advice , yes I do believe I need some experience as a general TA before progressing on to the next stage so I do need more experience I believe 3 years or so working as a general ta before I ask the school I'm working at about the course. I would also switch schools as I believe that would look better on my CV and ideally would give me more experience as different schools have different approaches.

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BoleynMemories13 · 13/08/2024 06:04

It's not too young, we have a 20 Year old HLTA who the kids adore. However, the HLTA role comes with such a lot of responsibility for really not that much more pay. If you have desires to lead a class one day, at your age I would look into gaining the right qualifications to get you into teacher training one day, bypassing the HLTA role.

Some do use it as a stepping stone to teaching, some do it because they want more from the TA role but have reached an age where they no longer wish to study or feel teaching won't work around their family.

At your age though, if you already have ambitions beyond your level 3 I wouldn't even think about becoming a HLTA as it's not an essential step, if you know you'll want to teach eventually. If there are GCSEs you need to gain in the meantime to get you onto a teaching course that's what I'd be looking into right now, rather than HLTA courses.

Sorry if I've misunderstood but you sound very ambitious so I wouldn't want you to think you need to spend time doing something which isn't necessary if your ultimate goal is to teach one day.

BoleynMemories13 · 13/08/2024 06:18

good96 · 12/08/2024 21:12

There is a lot of responsibility to the HLTA role and in most schools - they line manage the TAs in most schools and also there may be some teaching required..
A 19 year old isn’t going to have enough experience to fulfil that role. I would get the experience first as a TA (ideally in different schools too) so you can grasp a wider insight into the role and speak with the HLTA and discuss your career aspirations and see what development opportunities they can provide.

Also, to elude, age doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things, but you’d only have left school/full time education a year at that point.

As a HT myself, I’d be looking for someone who has a strong track record, a high performing TA who has the ability to take on the additional responsibilities…. No amount of hours in a classroom studying is going to give you the experience!

I was leading classes as a student teacher at 19, as is anyone who starts a BEd degree at 18, fresh out of school. Obviously you're training, under the guidance of a mentor, but it's still a lot of responsibility. 19 definitely isn't 'too young' for such responsibility, for the right person. OP is going to spend two years learning the TA role, on the job, and is clearly ambitious so I'm assuming they'll use that time wisely to observe colleagues closely and ask lots of questions/take on as many responsibilities as they can to help them progress in their career. Two years may be way too soon for some TAs to consider taking on more responsibility. Others could be ready pretty soon. It really depends on the person and their attitudes to progression. Some may take their time to bed in and learn the role, before deciding years down the line that they feel comfortable and ready to take on more. If they already start off knowing they want more though, they genuinely pick it up much quicker as the ultimate goal is progression.

Looking back, I wish I'd taken an apprenticeship role at 16 to learn on the job, rather than spending 2 further years at school doing A Levels (which I hated) as I already knew at 16 (and years before that) that I wanted to teach. It wasn't really a thing back then though. If you wanted to teach, you did A Levels and went off to uni to do a 4 year BEd. Again, I didn't really enjoy uni. I lived for the teaching placements as that was the only part each year which felt relevant to what I wanted to do. The hours spent in lectures wasn't how I learned best. Training on the job routes are far more effective I think in preparing people for the world of teaching. You learn so much on the job.

My own personal experience of apprentices at work is that they're amazing young people who learn fast. They could definitely be ready to lead classes in two years time if they have the ambition to do so.

ApprenticeTA2 · 13/08/2024 06:43

BoleynMemories13 · 13/08/2024 06:04

It's not too young, we have a 20 Year old HLTA who the kids adore. However, the HLTA role comes with such a lot of responsibility for really not that much more pay. If you have desires to lead a class one day, at your age I would look into gaining the right qualifications to get you into teacher training one day, bypassing the HLTA role.

Some do use it as a stepping stone to teaching, some do it because they want more from the TA role but have reached an age where they no longer wish to study or feel teaching won't work around their family.

At your age though, if you already have ambitions beyond your level 3 I wouldn't even think about becoming a HLTA as it's not an essential step, if you know you'll want to teach eventually. If there are GCSEs you need to gain in the meantime to get you onto a teaching course that's what I'd be looking into right now, rather than HLTA courses.

Sorry if I've misunderstood but you sound very ambitious so I wouldn't want you to think you need to spend time doing something which isn't necessary if your ultimate goal is to teach one day.

Hi there I definitely understand where your coming from and I 100% agree however my plan as I am 16 currently after I finish my apprenticeship I would like to hopefully gain a full time role at the school as there are past apprentices who have all secured a job there I hope I am no different so after that I would like to also enrol at a uni on a part time primary education with qts degree (6 years ) and I could also pay it off year by year so no debt as my money wouldn't really be going elsewhere as I am the youngest in my family so that means I would graduate at 24 as it is also part time you need to go in 1-2 days a week I spoke to a uni that said I eventually could go 1 day a week and do some online I hope the school would be accommodating to that as we would have built a nice working relationship by then . Now I don't know if it is extra stress but alongside that I would like to do a HLTA course but now I am seeing it as pointless as I would be in uni at that time .

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