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apprenticeta · 12/10/2023 11:22

Hi teachers , i was wondering if anyone knows any primary schools that to level 3 ta apprenticeships i am looking for some that start in september 2024 i appreciate it might be early but i like to get things done very quickly . I am looking for one in a nice respectful and reputable primary i also wanted to pick your brains a bit as i am only 16 . When i start the apprenticeship will the teachers like respect me or offload me as i did some work experience before and the teachers made me clean their cupboards and throw things away it felt humiliating as they were all looking at me and one of them said i quote " i have no idea what to do with you just sit down and kissed her teeth" i felt embarrassed . In terms of the staffroom i was told by the deputy head to eat my lunch in the staff room and it was nice teachers were laughing but it also felt akward i dont know if they felt i invaded their private space but it was eery. The second day i tried to go in but the office admin told me i wasnt allowed and i ate in a meeting room alone , apprentice teaching assistants are members of staff legally so will i be treated the same or a bit better.if i have offended anyone i apologise.

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titbumwillypoo · 12/10/2023 19:37

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apprenticeta · 12/10/2023 19:42

Hi i dont have an entitled attitude, if you knew you would know i dont and cleaning a cupoard when i was meant to be observing the teacher . I may be a bit paranoid but not entitled thats pushing the limit and i am 15 i am not meant to have a qualifacations incase that slipped your mind.. i dont know whos rattled your cage but mind your manners

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apprenticeta · 12/10/2023 19:45

i just want to say an entitled person wouldnt apologise , if i have offended you i am truly sorry as i have said before but obviously you dont seem know the meaning and i actually have a GCSe math at a grade 6 i just have my other ones left to do

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titbumwillypoo · 12/10/2023 20:01

I'm a little confused as to what exactly in my post offended you?

AFallingStar · 12/10/2023 20:16

I presume as you were under 16 (not sure if you're 15 or 16), your weren't allowed in the staffroom for safeguarding/confidentiality reasons. Don't take it personally!

When I've had a work experience student (only had one) I didn't want him to be bored but also struggled to think of things that were easy to delegate and achievable, especially as was very close to the end of term. When I could ask him to help the children with an activity I did, but I also asked him to do things like labelling books and shredding. I wouldn't take the cupboard cleaning job as an insult- it's part of working in schools.

I'm not sure which teachers have time to watch work experience students tidy cupboards though!

My TA this year is amazing at her job and very intuitive. She is invaluable in the way she supports the children, but I also really appreciate that she sorts pen pots and tidies away things.

From your post it seems if you want to be a TA you might need to work on being able to take instructions and feedback without getting offended.

Afraid I don't really know anything about apprenticeships etc but hope you find somewhere.

apprenticeta · 12/10/2023 20:21

HI thank you so much for the advice i really appreciate it i understand that cleaning the pots is apart of it as its a ta's job to keep the class clean , i felt offended because i thought they hated me etc i was overreacting and i understand i need to take instruction from the class teacher i cant wait to become a teachers assistant and i really cant wait to help the kids.

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careerchange456 · 12/10/2023 20:54

apprenticeta · 12/10/2023 19:42

Hi i dont have an entitled attitude, if you knew you would know i dont and cleaning a cupoard when i was meant to be observing the teacher . I may be a bit paranoid but not entitled thats pushing the limit and i am 15 i am not meant to have a qualifacations incase that slipped your mind.. i dont know whos rattled your cage but mind your manners

As an apprentice TA you wouldn't be there to observe the teacher. That would be a trainee teacher. As a TA you shouldn't be sat watching the lesson - you are primarily either supporting pupils in the lesson or supporting the teacher. The teacher will tell you which. If you are supporting the teacher, that may be sharpening pencils, tidying up the art things, washing up cooking utensils, mopping the floor because a child has had an accident or been sick. Being a TA (and a teacher) is a lot more than working with kids.

I agree if you were under 16 and on work experience you may not have been allowed in the staffroom for confidentiality reasons. Any work experience or college students we have are asked to eat in another room to our staffroom, partly for space and party because members of staff should be allowed to discuss things in the staffroom with people who have had the appropriate training to work in a school.

Postapocalypticcowgirl · 12/10/2023 21:00

Most schools won't take on staff under the age of 18 for all sorts of reasons. You might be better looking for a childcare course at college for a couple of years, or doing an apprenticeship in a nursery.

Unfortunately, I've not known a school employ anyone under 18.

apprenticeta · 12/10/2023 21:01

Thank you for the lovely advice i will take it in to consideration

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good96 · 14/10/2023 12:34

Work experience and being an apprentice are two totally different things. Work experience you are not an employee whereas as an apprentice you technically are.
I am a Headteacher myself and I can see why you were doing such arduous tasks on work experience- insurance and health and safety etc. As an apprentice it’ll slightly be different but there will still be some restrictions given that you are still under 18.

As for eating lunch in staff room - every school is different - in mine - we have a separate staff canteen that the catering company who manage the main canteen also manage too - so no real difference there.

ImAMinion · 15/10/2023 11:13

It’s hard yet can also be great to have a work experience student in the room. I have only had two, and certainly the first couple of days were a bit tricky as to the children they were a stranger. The other trouble is, unless you’re in the last couple of weeks of summer when so much else takes over, the teacher still needs the children to be learning, completing work…..and as a teacher the pressure of handing a group to an unqualified inexperienced teenager to complete their work with can be too much (and I say this as someone who started, like you, by doing work experience in a school at 15 and wondering why I didn’t have more exciting jobs to do).

I used my work experience students to do things like unofficial interventions, an extra intervention session if you will, mostly social ones where they were playing a game (extra doesn’t hurt) and it was interesting to see in terms of how the student reacted to behaviour and how they interacted. Yes, they were also asked to clear up messy activities or indeed do things like manning the art area in choosing time (under instruction and direction).

One thing to note is some schools are more welcoming to students and trainees than others. Just like some work places are better than others.

I have no idea about apprenticeships for being a TA at 16 but thinking about it I also have not seen an employee at a school who is under 18. Nurseries, yes, worked with many apprentices over my career.

No harm in applying though if you see them advertised.

What school year are you in? My guess would be Year 11 based on what you are discussing - I recommended you also seek more work experience (at a different school) for the gap where your GCSE’s have finished, and possibly consider some volunteer work with something like Brownies or such to boost your experience, and your confidence in yourself.

Do not be disheartened if you cannot find an apprenticeship for 16, apply for college level 3 as well as back up, or consider early years apprenticeship level 3 as a step.

My last piece of advice is don’t take anything from work experience personally. You are not an employee so will not be treated as one. The work can be arduous (like cleaning) because there’s little they can actually allow you to do. But do try hard to use your initiative and be proactive - See things left in the wrong place? Blunt pencils? Paint pots that need washing.? Books left on the floor in the book corner? Do it, wash it, tidy it, you’ll be appreciated and may well even be asked back or considered when jobs start to appear if you have done a good job and have shown a good work ethic.

apprenticeta · 15/10/2023 13:09

Hi thank you so much for your amazing feedback and advice , you really don’t know how much I appreciate it , yes I am also in year 11 , I have tried emailing schools some have said that they want me to apply on may around summer time and some have not replied at all , I have applied to a training provider who has accepted me as well as a college and a back up early years course I really hope I am accepted and once again I’d like to thank you for your amazing advice it is highly appreciated.

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apprenticeta · 15/10/2023 13:11

Hi I just wanted to follow up as you said to volunteer at schools , are they accepting volunteers right now around this time of year ?? I have previously completed work experience but it was around June

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