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Secondary HoDs non contact time?

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PumpkinPie2016 · 31/07/2023 16:43

Just out of curiosity really as my non-contact as a HoD in current school is quite a lot less than previous. Not complaining BTW, just interested to see what others get 😊

We have a 50 period fornight.

A full time teacher with no additional responsibility has 5 PPA per fortnight.

As HoD (core subject) we get the 5PPA a fortnight plus 4 Mgt time. It's roughly equally balanced so you are 'free' 5 periods one week and 4 the next.

We have form groups as well so all the work that goes with that e.g. making calls if they have two periods of absence/sitting on attendance meeting with pastoral worker/admin around things like behaviour points, school events etc. Monitoring and supporting with issues that arise either academic or personal. It's quite a big role at our school.

We also have more duties which is fair enough.

Previous school was a 25 period week.

Teachers with no additional responsibility got 3 PPA a week (not enough imo!).

As HoD we got 10 a week, so 3 PPA, 7 Mgt. No form group. Did have lots of duties though!

As I say, I am not complaining! I like my job, even though its tough at times! Just surprised at the difference between two schools (both state).

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rebotfc · 03/08/2023 14:39

It seems pretty high. If you have 9 non-contacts out of 50 that is teaching 82% of the time table.

I am HoD for a core subject I teach around 66%. Though my school has a low teaching % for normal teachers as well without TLRs. They teach around 79% of a full TT.

PumpkinPie2016 · 03/08/2023 20:47

Wow @rebotfc your school sounds generous 🙂

I do think my current school is less generous in terms of management time so it's interesting to see what others do.

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Postapocalypticcowgirl · 05/08/2023 17:46

We have form groups as well so all the work that goes with that e.g. making calls if they have two periods of absence - I would argue teachers should not be doing this as it's an admin task. It will eat a HUGE amount of your time potentially (I've been in schools with a similar policy) and is essentially unworkable, let alone if you are a HoD.

Current place HoDs don't have tutor groups, and have I believe a minimum of 7 additional non-contacts spread over a fortnight (above PPA), some have more if it's a big subject etc. They also do one or two periods of "on call" a week, which in theory could allow you to get some work done (but also sometimes you'd get nothing done). The non-contact isn't protected though, so some of them get hammered with a lot of cover.

ValancyRedfern · 19/08/2023 09:38

We have 30 50 minute periods a week. Normal teachers teach 25 (school attempted to up it to 27 but we threatened to strike and they backed down); HODs teach 23 so 2 lessons of management time, one of which is taken up with with a Line Management meeting. Core HODs don't have a form but all other HODS do.

niclw · 22/08/2023 20:23

We have 50 lessons a fortnight. We have 40 teaching hours. During my 10 free lessons I have both my PPA and mgt time, including a one hour line mgt meeting plus we have a one hour duty. On top of that I am mentoring a trainee this year and haven't been allocated time to do that so I'm down to 6 hours a fortnight to do everything 🤷‍♀️.

PumpkinPie2016 · 22/08/2023 21:20

It seems to vary quite a bit between schools doesn't it?

@niclw similar for me. Out of my 9 ppa/management per fortnight, I have 1 taken up by my line management meeting, plus another taken up meeting my technician for her line management meeting. I am mentoring an ect but in fairness, I get 1 extra period for this, though past experience says it's never enough. So, that leaves me 7 a fortnight for everything else. Some of those are 50 min period instead of 1 hour so probably about 6.5 hours.

There's then mentor training and subject network meetings I have to attend which inevitably means more work setting cover etc.

I think without the form it would be easier - they are a nice group but lots of need/parents wanting info etc. So it does take a lot of time. Last year, some didn't attend parents eve so then another free was taken with sending emails/making calls to the ones who hadn't attended.

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