TA salary

[Bumfluffs]

I’ve been offered a job as a TA.
The post is advertised as £19700 for 39 weeks of the year. i get that as schools are open 39 weeks a year.
But what happens with holiday pay? Surely I’m entitled to 5.6 weeks holiday on top of that?
So shouldn’t I be getting paid 44.6 weeks a year and then that salary is divided over 12 months?

Im very confused, and was hoping someone here could help!

Thankyou.

I think they have included the holiday pay in the £19,700 already.

Once you get your contract it will be clearer as this will tell you how many weeks you are paid for - but you can always ask the school to clarify.

Hi Daisy,
I have asked and they said that the salary is pro rated so I’d be on less than that.
They think around £14700 I can’t remember how he calculated now but it’s very confusing.

Hi, I answered a similar question on a thread last week. You will get paid for the 5.6 weeks holiday on top of the the 39 your school is open. Are you working about 32 hours a week by any chance?

If you were then the calculation would be:
£19,700 x 44.6/52 weeks = £16,897
£16,897 x 32/37 hours = £14,613

You won’t be entitled to 5.6 weeks holiday as you work for 39 weeks per year rather than 52. Your hourly pay will include an amount which will holidays pay.

Where I work we do get a statement which shows our basic hourly rate and then the calculation to show the amount added for holiday pay.

This might help a little https://www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement-rights

Wasn't holiday pay challenged recently by the peri music teacher? She won her case and got holiday pay.

My son's very casual temp job gives holiday pay.

Yes term fine workers are entitled to 5.6 weeks, it was challenged in the Supreme Court (Harper Trust v Brazel). I just wasn’t sure if it would be included in the salary or whether I would be paid for 44.6 instead of 39 weeks.

I didn’t apply for the job, I was offered it, so I’m not sure about any of the details relating to it. I think I’m going to provisionally accept and see what happens when my job offer etc comes through.

Thank you to everyone who has replied x

The £19700 is the amount you'd be paid for working the whole year with the normal amount of holiday. Term time only (TTO) jobs are advertsied like this, usually with a figure after that telling you the actual pro rata pay (the amount you get when its scaled down to 39 weeks also including the correct amount of holidays and pay for them - meaning you don't have to worry about it, it's all calculated already with any TTO job you go for - there are no extras!) Sometimes you have to ask for this figure as some employers don't put it up as it looks a lot lower and puts people off!
So holidays are always calculated in the figures when you see a TTO job - the figure for the year is scaled down because you're working less weeks and then this amount of split up into 12 amounts and paid throughout the year to keep the payments regular even though us TTO staff don't work at all in August.
As you can see from the comments here, it does confuse a lot of people.
I would add one extra thing though - I don't know if all employers ARE actually providing 5.6 weeks of holiday based on this recent ruling so even though it's calculated in the figure the job advertises, it may be 5.6 weeks that is included or it may be less and it's worth checking on that tbh.
I hope that helps.

That case was for a peripatetic teacher on a zero hours contract. TAs as USUALLY not employed on a zero hours contract. I’m absolutely certain that if my pay wasn’t being calculated correctly the Union would be all over it and I certainly don’t get paid as if I’d worked 6.5 weeks more than my 39 working week contract. I get “holiday pay” added to my hourly rate proportionately as I only “earn” 39 weeks worth of the 6.5 weeks someone who worked 45.5 (52 weeks less 6.5 weeks holiday) would.