4 days - how much is 0.8 on ups 3 and is it a huge no no?

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Looking at doing 4 days next year. I'd get full ppa but plan for the 5th day. It's primary. The 5th day would be a member of SLT who would basically act as supply. All displays/parents eve/staff mtg would fall on my days. Feels like full time over 4 days but I'm not wanting full time. That day off may be spent planning but I'd have weekends off

I do this and find it good overall*, except I end up doing all displays, parents eves, staff meetings (because they're hard to miss) and also the same number of duties as a full timer. However I get full PPA and don't plan for the fifth day. The extra day is only worth something like 20 minutes PPA - can you really plan and resource a full day in that? I'd not accept it on those terms. My class do schemes for things like PSHE and French when I'm not in. I also take back time when needed for things like my own child's Christmas play, knowing I go above and beyond on 0.8. My head knows I do plenty so is very good about it.

I'm not sure about pay because of all the recent strike days and a small TLR I had but I think it's between £1900 and £2000 take home (not London or Fringe).

*I like having my own class and wouldn't do 0.6 because I wouldn't want to share planning with another teacher. I'd rather just do my own thing and not have to worry about handovers and sticking to a stricter timetable to cover agreed lessons. I'm sure those things must waste time.

Thanks. Yes very good point. I spent a lot of time emailing my previous job share and missing info.

I’m 0.8 in primary. I think you feel like you’re working virtually full time. I write all reports, do all staff meetings, all team meetings, all parents evenings. I think I work at least 40 hours a week, so it’s a bit crap only getting paid 0.8.

I’m considering asking to go back down to 0.6 (because kids are still fairly small), or going up to full time because on some level it feels it would be less stressful. I’m UPS2 and take home about £1900 (not had a normal month yet because of occasional overtime and strike days).

If you are 0.8, you should only do activities you can fit into 0.8 of the directed time of a full time member of staff. So if all staff meetings, parents eve etc would take you over this, then the school can't ask you to do this. I would check this carefully.

Unfortunately, this doesn't apply to planning/marking, but it applies to any activity where you are directed to be on site.

Would they expect you to do all inset days?

I’m in a role a bit like this - but have leadership responsibilities too. I work more than full time. However, the benefit of being 0.8 is I can get stuff done on my day off instead of at the weekend, and I can take my dc to school one day a week too. For me, at the moment, 0.8 is therefore worth it.

I'm secondary so not the same, but I found 0.8 turned teaching into a full time job, rather than a more-than-full-time job. I always worked on my day off but I generally was able to take two days weekends off work. I was still HOD and putting on two whole school productions every year, basically being 0.8 meant my school got more energy from me for less pay, but I also got my weekends back. I resented that they got more from me for less money, but I am now finding full time impossible again so am I'm going to request it again for next year.

If you are being paid 0.8 you should absolutely NOT be planning for the 5th day!!!

Yes I know it will feel full time on 0.8 pay but I'm getting full ppa to plan for the 5th day and I have full control. I plan to work that 5th day to free up my weekend

Hi, just asking whether you actually went down to 0.8?

I'm considering this but my situation is a bit different. I class share with another fulltime teacher. Her other days (3 days) are in EYFS plus she covers another years groups PPA.

I teach our class Mon-wed, then I teach a ks2 class all day on Thursday, I do interventions on a Friday morning and have myPPA Friday afternoon.

This was done because I have health issues and the head thought it would help if I went off sick (which I have done) so my class share could step in.

If I could have Friday off this would help me enormously but need to see whether he's willing to change staffing half way through the year.

I'm on UPS3 and the Twinkl salary calculator says I'd pick up £2200.currently get £2500.

I'm 0.8 and bring home about 2300 (independent school).

Thanks
Are you on the new salary £46,525?

I've spoken to my head and he's agreed to let me drop a day, which has made me feel so much better.

I'm at an independent school but fte is 47600

I'm coming out with around £1851 on 4 days ups 3!

Actually I have £243 childcare vouchers before that so it's around £2094

Phew, I panicked a bit then. A £500 a month drop is a bit much 🥴

I didn't realise independent schools paid more

Independent schools don't always pay more! The one I work at pays slightly less and you have to top up your TPS yourself.