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Resignation

9 replies

SpringIntoChaos · 04/04/2023 09:42

Hoping someone can point me in the right direction please.

I know what the burgundy book resignation dates are for teachers. However, I recall reading somewhere that if you are moving to a job outside of education, you don't need to follow these rules. I can't find this information anywhere concrete though, so wondered if this was just another 'resignation myth'?

Does anyone know if this is true, or has anyone done this before and knows where I can find actual real information about it? I've googled but came up blank 🤦‍♀️

I've applied for a job outside of education but the interview process is long...and applicants won't be informed of the outcome until mid-June 🤦‍♀️ Too late for the 31st May resignation date. The job will start in August if successful. My school will absolutely not release teachers 'early' so if we miss the May deadline we wouldn't be released until 31st December!!! Which is utter madness isn't it? This is effectively a 7 month notice 😩 Bonkers system!

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Marchforward · 04/04/2023 10:31

It maybe worth discussing it with your regional union rep. If they negotiate with your headteacher and there is a risk you will be off due to the stress of the situation then they maybe happy to release you earlier.

FlemishHorse · 04/04/2023 12:01

The worst case scenario is that because you are in breach of contract, the school could try to reclaim from you any costs of replacing you in September (eg employing supply teachers for a term) and you would never get a a decent reference for another job in teaching.

Realistically, if your notice is only a couple of weeks late, they should have time to fill your job for September, especially if employing an NQT who doesn’t need to give notice. You could sweeten it by offering to resign on 31st of July which would save the school paying your August salary. Presumably if you do take this other job you I will be paid for August anyway. I can’t remember the exact rules for that, I think it’s quite complicated, but yes the union will probably know.

I couldn’t agree more, it’s bonkers!

Postapocalypticcowgirl · 04/04/2023 14:10

Unfortunately, the resignation dates do apply even if you're leaving education. Sometimes the last working dates vary (usually not in your favour).

I agree 7 months notice is mad, but so is the new job taking 2.5 months to make a decision! I'd suggest speaking to them and explaining your notice period, and explain if they want you for an August start, they need to let you know earlier!

As others have said, your union may also be able to negotiate an early release for you.

OutDamnedSpot · 04/04/2023 16:45

The only difference I know of if you’re moving out of education is at Easter. If you’re moving to a new school, they’re expected to release you before 31 April if the new term has started at the new school. If you’re staying in education, you have to stay until 31 April. I don’t think there are any official differences at other times of year, although a conversation with the head teacher would always be worth a shout.

good96 · 04/04/2023 23:09

Resignation dates do not change depending on the role you go for - it’s a difficult one. If you resign before the 31st May and chance it, there is still a chance that you might not get the job. What would you do then? I mean if you have financial stability and aren’t worried about loss of income until you find something else.
You could have a conversation with your HT now and let them know and try to come to an agreement - Mid June though is definitely cutting it very fine indeed to find a replacement for you. It’s not impossible though. I do have to ask though - why is the interview process over 2 months long?? Seems excessive! Unless of course you’re filming the next series of the Apprentice 😂

If it was me, I’d be having a conversation with the HT asap.

HubertTheGoat · 05/04/2023 06:51

I'd just leave and not worry about it personally. They're never going to recover costs from you and you can just ask for a generic reference (dates of employment, job role) which is all many jobs offer anyway.

HubertTheGoat · 05/04/2023 06:51

I'd just leave and not worry about it personally. They're never going to recover costs from you and you can just ask for a generic reference (dates of employment, job role) which is all many jobs offer anyway.

Meredusoleil · 06/04/2023 21:08

OutDamnedSpot · 04/04/2023 16:45

The only difference I know of if you’re moving out of education is at Easter. If you’re moving to a new school, they’re expected to release you before 31 April if the new term has started at the new school. If you’re staying in education, you have to stay until 31 April. I don’t think there are any official differences at other times of year, although a conversation with the head teacher would always be worth a shout.

31 April 🧐

OutDamnedSpot · 06/04/2023 21:46

Did you mean to be rude @Meredusoleil?

I presume the eye rolls is because I accidentally said 31 instead of 30?

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