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Are you sending your own dc in on strike days?

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pinotnow · 21/01/2023 10:44

I'm an NEU member so will be striking. I have secondary-aged dc in another school and would like to keep them off (they are in agreement - one because he supports the cause and one because it's a day off!). If heads are going to try and stay open come what may, and I think theirs will, it may help create more of an impact if attendance plummets.

My own head is planning some kind of hellish and pointless drop-down day, which he believes gets round the issue of staff setting cover as they will be 'just' supervising a shit-show. I would definitely keep them off if that was happening, but do you think fines would be imposed?

What are you all doing?

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mirabella17 · 21/01/2023 12:02

Seems pointless sending them in if it's just going to be a child sitting day - secondary kids will just play on laptops all day. I've said to my 2 that unless they have proper lessons (year 10 & 12) they should stay at home as I know they will actually do some studying here.

Toomanyminifigs · 21/01/2023 12:11

I hope it's OK me posting on here. I'm not a teacher but I have worked in FE. I was actually going to start my own thread about this on other boards but was worried about what response I'd get.

I am a parent of a secondary school aged child and I feel very strongly about supporting the action teachers are being forced to take.

I also come from a trade union family and we would never cross a picket line.
I want to keep my DS at home on strike days. (He also has an EHCP so would find the disruption difficult anyway.)

I read the DfE guidance they've issued (which is laughable) - it seems to suggest that if your DC's school is open and parents don't send them in, they will be marked unauthorised absent. If the school is unable to open then they will receive a Y code. (Which does not count towards pupil or school's attendance.)

Hayliebells · 21/01/2023 14:15

Good question, I don't know what to do either. My kids are primary age, and I've got no idea what they'll be doing if they do go in. I would prefer to keep them off, I feel that's more impactful, they'll be less successful if all schools are open for babysitting all children. I suspect though, that they won't be able to be open to all classes, so hopefully the school is closed to my kid's. If their classes are in, I don't know what I'll do! I don't want a fine.

Postapocalypticcowgirl · 21/01/2023 14:54

Obviously, normally, I wouldn't condone phoning them in sick when they are not, but is there anything stopping you saying they have a stomach bug or a bad headache etc on strike days? I would be very surprised if any school chased this up, even if they were suspicious. Particularly if I had a child who wouldn't cope with sudden changes of plan on the day.

In general, one day unauthorised (I know it will be 4 in total) won't attract fines, IME most secondaries don't go down this road until they have no other choice or if it's something like a two week holiday, because they know it damages relationships with parents.

I don't see how heads can guarantee "x classes will be open on the day, and y classes will be shut" though. A, because lots of people are changing unions and people can change their mind about striking up to the day of the strike and B, because what if Mrs X is ill etc?

minisoksmakehardwork · 21/01/2023 15:59

Surely the greater impact is to make sure all students who would normally attend school, are present and recorded on strike days?

So particularly with secondary schools, if this means classes merge, or close, we are supporting teachers disrupting by making sure those in charge have to consider a whole class rather than maybe the half class which has turned up?

There's only so many spaces in our school were we can accommodate doubled up classes. The school might not be able to get enough supply teachers in - my school is already having that with teaching staff and slt having to give up non-contact time to cover classes.

It also causes wider disruption because in the event the school cannot accommodate all pupils due to limited staff numbers, parents will be called to collect younger students particularly if teachers commit to not informing prior to strike, as they are permitted to.

Older students will be sent home. But it disrupts other businesses if they have to release parents go fetch children and reminds the government that school is not a babysitting service. It is an education service that parents sign up for when they register their child for school.

Yes, our children will miss out on a small part of their education. But I know that chronic underfunding is already impacting our children in far greater ways than a few days non-attendance.

I do not have either enough of or the correct resources to support sen children in developing and building on essential skills. And these are children who have additional funding. We do not have enough TA's to support students in mainstream classes. We do not have the time to plan quality provision as we are expected to deliver it without planning time.

I know it is just as hard in classrooms where teachers regularly have equipment destroyed, where they are pulled to cover absence and removed from their own non-contact time which is essential for them to understand and plan for their classes. To provide the education that parents and gov demand.

WonderingWanda · 21/01/2023 18:02

I agree with @minisoksmakehardwork it's better for the impsctnof strikes to send kids in. If there are fewer students then there won't be such bad cover implications.

Yellowmellow2 · 22/01/2023 10:26

If their class is open, then you need to send them to school as usual. Absence will be unauthorised otherwise. I’m not sure that your child saying he’ll have a day off school to support the cause is a valid reason!!

pinotnow · 22/01/2023 10:33

They're secondary aged, so there is no class as such. The day could well be a total waste of time with cover lessons/mixed up classes and being supervised watching films etc. And my child hasn't said that he'll have a day off - I asked if he would object to staying off and he said no for that reason. When he had a tooth removed in preparation for a brace fitting he insisted on going straight back in. He's certainly not angling for a day off, ds2 might be, but not the one that supports the cause!

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