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Teachers…how much do you earn??

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coopekid · 09/12/2022 18:58

Me: 7th year teaching (with 1 year Mat leave) in a LEA Special school not in London or fringe. Now work 2 days a week, 0.4 of a f/t equivalent salary of £30,600 plus pro-rata £4,479 SEN allowance. Works out at £12,240 plus £1,791 SEN allowance.

Teachers…how long have you been teaching, where do you work and (before any proposed increases) how much do you currently earn??

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Redhollyhocks · 13/12/2022 09:36

I was on UPS with a TLR but since moving areas I’ve started supply teaching, which is £130 a day. Obviously great not to have a heavy workload, but considering there is no holiday pay, sick pay and you can be cancelled last minute (e.g. snow closures) the hourly rate is not great!

Minimochi · 13/12/2022 19:19

Been teaching for 15 years, currently at an independent school. I'm year leader and class teacher (full time, 40 hours/week). I am currently on 52k.

Hayliebells · 14/12/2022 19:41

11 years in teaching (inc 2 maternity leaves), I’m on UPS2, Outer London, TLR 2a. Why are those salaries for independent schools so low? Am I missing something, but they seem low compared to state, is that right? All the independents (at least secondary) near me seem to pay quite a bit more than state, colleagues leave for the better salary. Is it subject dependent? And as for state schools not paying to scale, in the current climate, why on earth would you stay?!!

coopekid · 15/12/2022 09:40

@Hayliebells ‘And as for state schools not paying to scale, in the current climate, why on earth would you stay?!!’

Not always easy when you’re on a p/t contract.

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Hayliebells · 15/12/2022 10:13

I think it must very much depend on location/subject. I'm p/t, and I've no intention of ever working f/t, and I'm 100% confident that if I resigned I could walk into another p/t job, with the same salary. Schools near me give experienced teachers pretty much anything they ask for to try and recruit, as decent, available science teachers are as rare as hen's teeth.

Bilbobagzy · 28/11/2025 20:47

Fully qualified, two degrees, 4 years experience. 25k a year. 40 hours a week

Smeegall · 29/11/2025 07:00

Bilbobagzy · 28/11/2025 20:47

Fully qualified, two degrees, 4 years experience. 25k a year. 40 hours a week

But this is below M1 - so I assume this must be private???

CeciliaMars · 29/11/2025 09:26

@Bilbobagzy that's a terrible wage! Why so low?
It does depress me tbh to see that unless teachers go into SLT, they pretty much never go above £50k. I'm talking about primary here. And yet round here, you can't buy a 2-bed flat for much less than £300k. Why would any decent graduate, who has loans to pay off and no wealthy parent to help with a house deposit, go into teaching these days knowing they're unlikely to ever get on the housing ladder? When I started teaching 20 years ago, I was able to buy a 1-bed flat in Zone 2 of London for £140k. I was on £40k by my third year of teaching. I am not in London now but my wages have barely increased in 17 years. I am lucky as I have a husband that earns OK and we both made a bit of money on our first properties. I wouldn't become a teacher now if I was young and single.

fussychica · 29/11/2025 16:34

DC 9th year of teaching, HOD in an outer London academy. UPS 2 plus TLR1.

PensionPuzzle · 29/11/2025 22:31

I'm on UPS3 and have been for a while so just over £50k.
I earned more five years ago before relocating, when I had a middle leader role and an SEN point, but I am currently loving life as 'just' an experienced classroom teacher and the take-home difference isn't that much really. The workload/stress reduction is more than worth it.

Mountaintopp · 30/11/2025 08:56

Both me and my husband are independent school teachers in London, c.18 years experience each, both whole school roles but non SLT. We're both on just over £70k. One in the TPS but one of those included a pay rise after withdrawing from the TPS albeit with a decent alternative pension.

CeciliaMars · 30/11/2025 09:11

Mountaintopp · 30/11/2025 08:56

Both me and my husband are independent school teachers in London, c.18 years experience each, both whole school roles but non SLT. We're both on just over £70k. One in the TPS but one of those included a pay rise after withdrawing from the TPS albeit with a decent alternative pension.

I would say that's a good teacher's salary for primary, non SLT. Well done you!

Fifthtimelucky · 30/11/2025 09:30

My daughter is in her 4th year of teaching in the fringe area and earns just over £51,000.

She has two TLRs, including one biggish one as a head of year.

Mountaintopp · 30/11/2025 10:13

@CeciliaMars sorry should have said that those are both secondary.

ProudCat · 30/11/2025 17:41

Secondary history HoD - small dept. M4 and TLR 2b (which is a fairly hefty whack). They've already said they'll support a jump to UPS next year. Currently around £45k. Not in London or Fringe.

Smeegall · 30/11/2025 19:23

Ups3, TLR of about 6k, outside of London... As I'm 0.8 I'm on about 47k. Plus earnt about 2k in exams and do another small thing (ECF facilitating). Id say nearly 50k all in.

I don't think it's a bad salary for part-time but I can't earn more without being SLT and I already do so much.

I'm in secondary too.

Makingpeace · 02/12/2025 09:37

WayDownInTheHole · 11/12/2022 22:00

In my tenth year of teaching. Independent, HoD with a small pastoral responsibility too - approx. £42000.

This sounds low for a HoD to me!

Classroom teacher, small school, on M6, £43k, no other responsibilities. Not London or fringe.

Makingpeace · 02/12/2025 09:40

PensionPuzzle · 29/11/2025 22:31

I'm on UPS3 and have been for a while so just over £50k.
I earned more five years ago before relocating, when I had a middle leader role and an SEN point, but I am currently loving life as 'just' an experienced classroom teacher and the take-home difference isn't that much really. The workload/stress reduction is more than worth it.

What's the expectation on you at UPS?
I'm loathed to cross the threshold as also enjoying being 'just' an experienced teacher albeit on MPS6.

PensionPuzzle · 02/12/2025 19:23

@Makingpeace it's very fair here (I'm secondary 11-18 core). The main thing I do that's different is that I'm expected to put more into developing curriculum materials than the MPS team. So the TLR holders will have a list of priorities etc and I'll get a bigger/bulkier job. I also lead my A level course in terms of the admin etc. rather than just teaching it. There are a few other bits and bobs that I do above what the others do but I don't know how much of that is because I've done the TLR jobs before and can just spot and get on with certain things that need doing for the department as I've got more headspace/capacity.

I sometimes get sent off to share expertise with other subjects and I'll support people in our team when needed but I don't feel I have to do a lot directly as a result of my pay- it's just the stuff that comes easier as you gain experience.

angelcake20 · 03/12/2025 20:16

This is a 3 year old thread!

ineedhelp37 · 08/12/2025 20:32

£50k full time independent. 13 years teaching.

Ohshitiveturnedintomymother · 29/12/2025 10:11

I’m 0.7 in an independent. Teaching for 15 years. If I were full time I’d be on £55k give or take. 0.7 is about £38k. My choice to be part time and I wouldn’t trade it for the full time salary
mum at the top of the main pay scale for my school, have been since 8 years in. We do tend to get a pay increase every year but it’s usually only 1-2% so doesnt really count

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