If you left teaching what did you go on to?

[Snowflakewater]

I had a really tough day today and parTly just need to vent and partly need some advice.

I think at the place I’m in now I really don’t know if I can carry on teaching, I’m losing passion for it on a daily basis. The good kids are amazing but the bad are awful. I got told “spotty features” and another shouted something so bad I just wanted to burst into tears another told me “I’m an arrogant so and so” for them flinging a chair across a room, I learnt not to let much get to me but this just did.

Since I’ve been back after summer I’ve lost the passion to teach, I just feel like I’m on auto pilot, I work with others who just seem to know jr all and one up each other in meetings. The kids simply do not listen and it just feels exhausting.

Part of me wants to stay or maybe this school just isn’t right, but then another part of me thinks, maybe I’m just not a good teacher and actually it might be time to find something that I do genuinely feel more passion for.

How is everyone else getting on?

A backup career?
The students need someone who cares about them and their progress enough to sweat the small stuff. If that's not you, you do need to leave. I actually think you need to hand in your notice for the end of the year now, if you won't do it for the end of term.

My passion is getting through the day without saying or doing anything that might make a parent complain (private school; they never bloody stop complaining 🙄), doing some marking, then lying on the settee mumsnetting in the evening. Oh, and sending incredibly polite emails to the Head explaining why I can't do whatever the additional task is that he's thought up that week.

My real passion is something entirely different, and I'll be spending lots of time on it at half term 😊

So what was yr first choice career and what happened with that option?

My feelings exactly

You just react seemingly angrily to something you think I've said and pay zero attention to any of the actual ideas and suggestions given.

We're agreeing with you - it's not for you, give it up.

Yes to avoiding parental complaints - impossible some years. And yes to trying to find the right balance of polite and assertive in which to say gtf in an email to some ridiculous request that would be an onslaught of extra work with no time to do it in.

But they're not your feelings exactly. You seem to expect work to give you your passion and the poster you're quoting is saying the opposite.

Sorry we don’t all live and breathe teaching. A backup career means it was something I was considering if option number one was not feasible, covid caused issues with career option number one as I needed to travel. It’s very narrow minded to assume people go into teaching with that being the only thing they ever wanted to do.

I still care about my students achieving the grades they need.

Stop making a mountain out of a molehill and zooming into singular things I’m saying.

Im planning to resign at the end of the academic year. It’s not your place to tell me when the right time is. People have bills to pay.

Thats what I’m trying to do mate. If I had 0 bills to pay I’d be gone yesterday. So can you please stop assuming I can just make it all happen tomorrow.

I’ll take on board everyone’s suggestions and be better and more reflective going foreword.

Ok Mate. Sorry, on an earlier thread you described a position in which very few bills would exist. I can't keep up sorry mate.

I can't believe an English teacher types foreword for forward. I just can't.

This is the last time I will reply to you. I have gone out of my way both here and by PM to support you. I have given my time and my advice freely because I believe that teachers need support all the way through their career, and I am happy to do that.
But all you do is complain about the kids, your colleagues, your schools. You seem to know very little about your terms and conditions or what good classrooms look like. And if you don't get the "poor you, teaching will be poorer without you" response you want, you point fingers or get your threads pulled.
I couldn't care less if people don't live and breathe teaching as long as they're doing their best. You're the one who started with "passion", not me.
Good luck with the rest of the year.

Yes I hope the year improves moving foreword.

That’s absolutely fine

God help a typing error on a post, talk about being pedantic.

No, it's ungrateful and embarrassingly rude actually. It seems reasonable to assume you have been equally ungrateful and rude to anyone who has tried to help you in real life given how you have nothing positive to say about any staff in any of the three schools that have tried to accommodate you and your needs.

Have you gotten on with or had respect for any of your mentors or tutors at all?

I think it’s best if you just don’t comment any further because you’re making some unbelievably wild assumptions, and quite frankly you really have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re asking silly questions unrelated to the post, behaving pedantically towards a typing error.

If that’s how you treat people at work around you when they make mistakes, or if you’ve ever been a mentor, you’re probably the reason people choose to leave. You make the profession more difficult than it needs to be.

Also a typo cannot be “embarrassingly rude”.

Also a typo cannot be “embarrassingly rude”.

Your responses have been embarrassingly rude.

You said, 'That's absolutely fine.' I responded to that, not the typo with my rude comment. I do find it embarrassingly rude that you have spoken the way you have to someone who has bent over backwards trying to help you with applications etc in their own limited time and the way you regularly talk to and about teachers on here. You post a lot and give a lot of information in all that posting so people do get to build up quite a picture and be relatively informed actually.

You accuse me of making assumptions and then go on to say I am the reason people leave the teaching profession and assume things about how I treat my colleagues (entirely wrongly I might add).

You have never had a positive word to say about anyone you've worked with or who has mentored you or tried to support you. You are constantly rude to people on here and get threads deleted if you don't like what people say. Conclusions a drawn eventually.

That’s a wonderful thought process, thank you for taking the time to have talked me through it.

Some ex teachers I know have gone into the civil service or hr - possible options for you?

I think something that doesn't require dealing with people at all might be a good option. Or something where it's part of your job to be able to put everyone's backs up and rudeness and misplaced arrogance doesn't act as an obstacle.

I'm beginning to see why the kids threw things.

Maybe replace Liz Truss?

I was looking into HR actually, spending the holidays doing extra research and also getting advice from people in the field.

Who’s asking for your opinion at this point honestly? On numerous occasions I’ve shut you down and given you responses that don’t even require any further response, why are you still rambling.

Oh yes, of course you can see why a child with significant SEN needs threw a chair, you’re a genius.