Who would usually take on the role of EVC?

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Just that really? Would this is generally be an admin role or allocated to a teaching role?

Er what's an EVC?

Educational visits coordinator?

I've done it in the past but the rules were more relaxed now. Although the fact that all paperwork in now online might help with organisation (in my day it was bits of paper that people often handed me in the corridor and I had to try not to lose them!) I suppose like any other role it depends if you get enough time allocated out of class to do it.

Always been a teaching role (usually SLT) in the schools I've worked in, with an admin assistant to support with paperwork. This is at secondary.

I've seen it done by both teaching staff and admin. At my current school it's one of the examination officer's responsibilities.

In a primary, a teacher usually. Perhaps the deputy head (who would likely be teaching 4 days a week).

Right I'm going to have another try (I really shouldn't reply at 6.30am)
In our school it's always been a teaching role at the same level as other subject coordinator.
Usually somebody non-class based (PE specialist for many years now) because it can be time consuming.
I've never known it to be admin because going on some of the bigger trips is part of the role.

Secondary:admin. The vast majority of the work does not require a trained teacher!

The coordinator sometimes goes.

We have a lot of trips, including overseas ones.

Ours is the lady who does cover.

Ours carries a TLR, the person who does it is always super busy

Can someone please explain to me why a qualified teacher needs to do that job?

Seems a complete waste to me!

At our place the teachers will devise the trips but then hand it to the Trips lady for all of the detail. The latter will email round asking for staff volunteers (usually open to all types of staff) if there aren't enough from th dept.

It doesn't need to be a qualified teacher.

Ours is the SBM, who works then in concert with class teachers on their trips, and she does an amazing job with it.

The EVC doesn't necessarily need to be a qualified teacher but I can imagine in some small primary schools there may be literally no-one else available to do it. At my previous school the EVC role was bundled with responsibility for D of E co-ordination and had a small TLR.

I’m secondary science in my second year of teaching. My HoD asked me to be in charge of trips this year. I said no - it’s a lot of work and it’s certainly not part of my pay/directed time as a mere classroom teacher!

It doesn't. But in a small primary I also serve dinners, do all my photocopying, put up displays, place orders for random things like a new bin for the playground...there simply aren't other people to do these jobs, even though you don't need a teaching degree to do them. Even in a big primary, there isn't the budget to pay a TA or whoever to do them, as they're needed elsewhere, so it falls to a teacher who essentially does it unpaid in their evenings.

Yes of course but the OP was talking about secondary, wasn't she?

Oh sorry, checked and she didn't specify. I guess I thought if you've given someone the EVC title it's a separate job role even if PT.

Thank you for all of your replies.
After reading the guidance I got the impression that the evc should have visit leadership experience and the status within school to monitor and evaluate the value of trips, as well as ensuring risk assessments etc are thought out. It seemed to me that that role would sit more in a teaching role, possibly a phase leader role as they would have experience of being on trips if not running trips.

Looking at the replies though, it appears the responsibility can lie anywhere across school!

Assistant HT in our school. They take on overall responsibility for safety on trips so I cannot imagine someone more junior being asked to do that? Agree with what you say, in that they evaluate the worth of a trip, oversee the RA's and monitor the calendar -ultimately they say yea or nay to a trip running at all.

"Coordinator" doesn't suggest leadership though?

Never an SLT role in secondary IME but trip proposals do have to be approved by SLT.

It does often feel like the default on this board is secondary. Feel like it should be a rule to state which you are talking about in the OP.