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Supply Teacher Pay

18 replies

AR77 · 17/08/2022 08:13

Just looking for opinions really...

Given the cost of living crisis, I wondered if there were any other supply teachers thinking about asking their agencies for more pay in September? I know it's a terrible time for schools having to account for staff pay rises and energy bills, and nobody wants to make things worse, but...with bills to pay...would it be unreasonable to ask? I wondered what your thoughts were?

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AceSpades54321 · 17/08/2022 10:43

Last term they kept on giving me schools over 40 minute drive away, I was paid £75 a day but told them because of the extra driving and wrap around school care that I needed for my children because or the travel time I could only do it for £100 - they agreed.

AR77 · 17/08/2022 12:50

I suppose they can only say 'no'...

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MissAtomicBomb1 · 17/08/2022 14:21

AceSpades54321 · 17/08/2022 10:43

Last term they kept on giving me schools over 40 minute drive away, I was paid £75 a day but told them because of the extra driving and wrap around school care that I needed for my children because or the travel time I could only do it for £100 - they agreed.

£100 for a full day teaching?! Surely I've read that wrong?
Even on M1 that is appallingly low.
I used to get £135 a day for day to day supply in the east mids. Paid to scale (M6) it should have been £189 but no one gets that.
I think we need to start holding out for more. They are charging the school at least double what you are being paid!

Dendron123 · 18/08/2022 12:35

Having been threatened in a Mainstream school on £75 a day I refused to do any more Cover Supervisor work. The agency promptly offered teachers pay but I refused for a while.

I worked out minimum pay for my area on M1 plus SEN allowance where applicable. I had done a few days at a school without checking rate beforehand. I was appalled at how low it was. I then refused work for a few more weeks. Eventually they paid me to scale M6 straightaway at a school I'd been refusing. M1 seemed to be going rate for most day to day.

I think it worked because they were really short of teachers and I was willing to keep my free time rather than be underpaid.

I suspect schools will try it on in September.

I appreciate if you need to work it's high risk. I object to being paid less than NQTs on their first day.

When the pay scales are published divide M1 by 195 days. Have that as your absolute non- negotiable.

You could ask for a bit higher so they have space to beat you down by to.

Be prepared to say No. I be found it worked much better than I expected.

I used to be really soft-hearted and agree to do favours for agency/ for sale of children,..etc. No more.

I didn't think there would be work last year but I was wrong. I'm not holding my breath for this year but who knows?

Good luck. Always check rate first. Say No.

Train for another job if you're young enough.

KateRusby · 18/08/2022 16:04

It's really hard to get supply teachers at all where I am so you might find you're in a good negotiating position.

Dendron123 · 18/08/2022 19:15

Yes, I expected the Great Exodus of supply teachers to begin this academic year but I think it happened at least a year ago. Work was so rare, schools so hostile when you turned up and pay somlow. Not to mention the deterioration in behaviour.

Though to be fair, I have now been in one school where behaviour has improved...

AR77 · 23/08/2022 13:24

Thanks for the advice.

Well, I'm a 'good' supply teacher but I'm aware that heating costs and teachers' pay rises are hitting school budgets. It's just, you know, inflation and cosy of living. I'm in London. It's too late to re-train.

I'll see what they say.

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Mrsuntidy · 23/08/2022 19:26

Your rate is London? You need to change supply agencies. I was supply our of London on M2 and was on £130 per day. London should be minimum of £130.

Mrsuntidy · 23/08/2022 19:28

Sorry! Just realised that rate wasn't for you... The poster who is getting the low rate needs to ask for more.

AR77 · 24/08/2022 07:54

Well this is the problem. I am getting 'top whack' (£150) for day to day...but if inflation is going up to 18% and who only knows how much the gas and electric is going up, and the rent has gone up by £100...it's looking a bit tricky.

I might have to find a 'proper' teaching job but that does not sound particularly appealing for obvious reasons.

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postwarbulge · 26/12/2022 19:06

In London, £130 per day if you are lucky. Often, even if you are teaching your own subject, you get CS pay that can be as low as £50 per day

Dendron123 · 26/12/2022 23:30

After being credibly threatened I now refuse to work at Cover Supervisor rate. After a few weeks, guess what, teacher rates reappeared.

AR77 · 31/12/2022 07:27

That is great news Dendron123! Glad to hear it.

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Postapocalypticcowgirl · 31/12/2022 12:48

AR77 · 23/08/2022 13:24

Thanks for the advice.

Well, I'm a 'good' supply teacher but I'm aware that heating costs and teachers' pay rises are hitting school budgets. It's just, you know, inflation and cosy of living. I'm in London. It's too late to re-train.

I'll see what they say.

Ultimately, balancing school budgets is really not your problem.

Ask your agency for what you need, and see what happens. There's no point helping out schools if you are struggling to pay the rent.

postwarbulge · 24/01/2023 01:25

I did as @dendron123 suggested and told my agencies that I would only accept teaching roles at the appropriate pay and not minimum wage cover supervisor roles. Neither agency has contacted me subsequently.

Dendron123 · 24/01/2023 12:45

Sorry to hear they haven't got back to you.

Time for a new agency?

I was prepared to not work. I realise not everyone can afford to do that.

postwarbulge · 24/01/2023 13:30

I have very charry of supply agencies as they seem to come in two varieties: no pay and no work. Working for some of them has made me feel that I have 'fallen among thieves' and 'swimming in shark-infested waters'. I approached a couple of new agencies but both gave me the patter about insisting on teaching work rather than CS would limit the amount I would get as, they claim, most schools use CSs rather than teachers, even in primary schools.

Bronzeisthecolour · 04/02/2023 09:14

Any recommendation on supply agencies?

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