Morning only job in primary

[Hardtobelieve123]

Just weighing up the pros and cons of a morning only job.

My previous head advised me against it, saying I’d get all the stress and only half the pay. That it’s better to be in for full days. Think she was right actually.

Seen a morning only job and the advantage is that I could pick up my own kids at the end of the day. The trouble is I’d be on less than half pay for what I think is not less than half the work. The morning is the most important part of a primary school day isn’t it?

what are your thoughts?

So just to add… they want the teacher to work 8:30 to 12:30

no mention of PPA

would be on 0.45

4 mornings a week

And for some reason they say Pay Scale is up to TMS4. Not sure what that means.

it’s an academy….

The loss of pay portability is really rubbish isn’t it?

The first thing you need to do is work out whether four mornings is, in fact, 0.45 of a TT. In my school it would be 0.53. So if you were here, you would also need 0.53 of the PPA time which a full timer would receive. If they say it isn't possible to give you PPA time within the four mornings, you could still be paid for it but WFH. Be very clear about what will happen with INSET / staff meetings / parents' evenings etc, or you'll end up attending all of them rather than the correct pro-rata ratio.

The loss of pay portability is sh*t. If you're on more than TMS4, negotiate (women are bad at negotiating over pay) as if they're looking for a September start the pool of applicants will be small by this point.

Basically, I think it's worth looking at, but make boundaries and expectations very clear right from the start. If they're not happy about that, it's not going to be a good place to work.

Thank you so much.

I was on UPS1 with a TLR but I’ve had a career break.

I’ll give them a call next week to work out what the conditions are. I’m not keen to be taken advantage of and don’t want to pluck the lowest hanging fruit just because it’s there.

is TMS4 the same as M4? Am a bit rusty on all that.

I would imagined that TMS stands for Teachers' Main Scale, so yes, M4. It's another thing to check, though. Make sure that anything they tell you verbally is confirmed by email - schools are very slow to send contracts IME.

Thank you so much. You’ve been really helpful

I did it for a year and felt like I was doing 80% of the workload for 50% of the pay. You also never get those easy afternoons when there's a church service or random visitor that you don't need to plan for. Maybe in a school that followed a maths scheme or has shared planning it'd be easier. It wasn't a popular work pattern when I applied so I imagine you probably have some room to negotiate.

Thanks, that’s really helpful to hear how it felt.