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Slight predicament, think I may be out of my depth

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Snowflakewater · 25/04/2022 17:20

im Currently applying for other schools at the moment and have had all of zero luck. It’s insanely hard.

i have spoke with a supply agency who reassured me that the work is definitely there if I can’t actually secure a job.

As i mentioned before we have a role going out and I was approached for a temp contract that has gone but not this specific role. This school really has never been the best fit for me since day one, but realistically I’ve no other options. So I figured I’d ask what my options would be. I’m going to be placed against other candidates.

Im really unsire how I feel about it, like I said I have no other options as I’ve not heard back from any other school that I’ve applied to, i know it’s procedure which is absolutely fine, but I’m against other potentially better external candidates.

Im obviously just worried about being one of many and there being no guarantee

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Snowflakewater · 25/04/2022 18:36

Also to add I feel like because I’m an over thinker I ended up framing the question stupidly. One staff member regularly asks and also happens to be very high up. He asked what the movement was with things I just said “I’m not hearing anything it been silent for weeks which makes me less interested in moving” (I also said the same thing to my manager and said I just feel like I’m not getting anywhere and when you offered me a position before I would still be here on a temp basis)

he then said you could try x,y,z for work I then posed the question if the option was available here. He said go and speak to the recruitment team and ask them, they then reiterated the above.

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QuickFoxRun · 25/04/2022 21:32

It sounds like you’ve made clear to this school that you’d only be interested in working for them if you were unable to find employment elsewhere. That’s fine, but you can’t expect them to be impressed by that. You’ve also had endless issues this year in terms of behaviour management and your relationships with both students and teaching staff. I’m just not sure what you expect at this point. You don’t want to work there. They’re not encouraging you to stay. It seems like your time in this school is done. Consider it a lesson learned and move on.

Snowflakewater · 25/04/2022 22:09

I have never ever tried to make that blindingly obvious. I turned down the initial contract professionally explaining that I was unable to commit at that particular time but would be open to opportunities at a later date.

I was approached by the staff member asking me what was going on for the next year and if I had plans I just explained the situation and then asked if I was able to speak to anyone regarding the advertised post.

If anyone has ever asked I’ve always said that it’s mainly due to my commute. I’ve never said it’s an issue I’ve had there. I obviously know where you’re coming from but I’ve always had to be open as I’ve been here on a temporary contract so seeking a job was ultimately what I had to do.

last time they asked I was applying to so many places so I had to say no because I didn’t want to mess them around.

as I said I’ve never acted unprofessionally about it, I just feel like k put my foot in it the way I responded earlier

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PumpkinPie2016 · 26/04/2022 22:09

Sorry you're having a hard time finding a post.

What age range/subject are you? If you are not hearing anything back, it sounds like your application may not be strong - not meant unkindly - just that sometimes applications can be a minefield. Can you ask someone to go over your personal statement? It may be that a few tweaks secures you an interview.

With regards to your current school - it sounds like they have advertised the post (or a post) because you turned down the one they offered and they need to fill the vacancy. Advertising is expensive so they will want to interview suitable candidates. Of course, you can apply but you will be interviewed in the same way as the others.

I would, however, urge you to consider whether this is the right school for you. If it isn't a good fit, do you really want to stay? Perhaps a fresh start elsewhere would be a good idea?

As for supply, the secondary I work in and many schools I know/hear about really struggle to get supply staff at the moment so there should be work there. It may lead to something more permanent as well and also give you experience in different schools.

Snowflakewater · 26/04/2022 22:34

Hey pumpkinpie thank you for your response! I have had my application checked by a lovely mumsnetter on here who gave me some great advice to make things better. I really needed that as I realised how weak my application was in the first place.

honestly, hand on heart, no I don’t wanna stay, I know I could do a lot worse than where I am, however I just really feel down being here sometimes. Like it doesn’t make me excited to teach, I enjoy teaching some groups for sure and will miss some of my groups, but staff wise I have experienced some of the toxicity that goes on. But literally I’m finding nothing at all

my Aunty has made me aware of a vaccancy at a school she works at which I might have a try at applying for.

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OutDamnedSpot · 27/04/2022 07:32

If you turned down their initial offer of a role, you really can’t be surprised that they’ve advertised externally? The school’s priority will be to fill a post, and you’ve suggested you’re not a firm candidate so they’re keeping their options open (as you are, by continuing to look for other jobs).

I think you need to make a firm decision about whether you want to stay there (in which case, apply for the job, give the interview your all) or not (don’t apply. Keep searching).

What subject and age range do you teach? (That will help us advise you about how many jobs are likely to come up)

Snowflakewater · 27/04/2022 11:45

OutDamnedSpot · 27/04/2022 07:32

If you turned down their initial offer of a role, you really can’t be surprised that they’ve advertised externally? The school’s priority will be to fill a post, and you’ve suggested you’re not a firm candidate so they’re keeping their options open (as you are, by continuing to look for other jobs).

I think you need to make a firm decision about whether you want to stay there (in which case, apply for the job, give the interview your all) or not (don’t apply. Keep searching).

What subject and age range do you teach? (That will help us advise you about how many jobs are likely to come up)

I’ve applied but I am applying elsewhere too as this is not technically guaranteed even if I’m internal. I’m not going in with the mindset that it’ll be handed to me. (Not sure if that’s considered wrong though as I’m not on a permanent contract so have to seek out other options)

Im secondary, but my issue would be I can’t do long commutes which makes the search harder.

i applied elsewhere and sent my app the day before the deadline, the interviews take place on the 4th May so I am assuming I’ve not been successful as I’ve not heard from them yet.

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Snowflakewater · 27/04/2022 16:41

Oh also in the above message I was referring to being unsure if I could apply elsewhere while being interested in others.

mot that my attitude should be different. Just thought I’d clarify!

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